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Has anyone ever seen a colour chart for the interior of these models? I know with the Series 1 and 2 cars the interior choice was limited and for certain periods no option was really given but with the Turbo and S3 I've seen a variety of colours mixed and matched with different exteriors colours and wondered how a buyer at the time would have chosen.
I know that I've seen:
Black
Brown
Champagne
Dark Blue
Gold
Green
Hopsack (black/silver cloth)
Light Blue/Grey (called Silver)
Red
Sand
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@Andyww what is the error in the service notes wiring diagram?
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On 06/08/2022 at 21:14, Choppa said:
Not sure if your list covers this but have you checked the plastic pins inside the headlamp switch? Over time they can deform ever so slightly with the heat when the connection is made and prevent contact being made intermittently. This might be the issue and if you are careful you can dismantle the switch and replace the pins from a donor Lucas switch
Yes I have and they are both fine, they look like new and are definitely applying pressure.
On 07/08/2022 at 09:08, Andyww said:There is a differece in the current path when main/flash is being used vs dip, but cant see how that can cause cycling on one setting but not the other.
Maybe the reason it does not happen on main beam is the voltage drop is higher on the battery so the motors are being less "driven".
If thats the case it could be motor run-on. If either motor runs past the limit switch it will cause both to carry on running. Run on could be caused by two issues: The motor supplies are each earthed by a changeover relay when not running, which acts as a brake. If this is not happening it will cause this. Also the motors have end-float adjustment screws with locknuts on the end of the gear housing. If one of these has come unscrewed it will cause the braking effect to not work properly.
Also has the system ever been rewired? If someone has wired it according to the Turbo Esprit wiring diagram in the service notes it wont work properly as there is an error in the diagram. In fact the results of the error would be pretty much what you are seeing.
I don't believe it has been rewired, certainly not in the five years I've owned it and the problem only occurred a few months ago. The wiring looks old and seems to correspond with the wiring diagram.
Where should I be looking to check the changeover relay and the earth connection?
Is there a specific way to check the end float adjustment like a torque measurement?
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I’m having a battle with my lamp pods constantly flapping up and down on dipped beam. They don’t do it on flash or main beam.
I opened the motors as shown in the picture above and one of the contacts for the switch did look a bit suspect so I put some string under it and pressed the strip against the contact while pulling upwards on the string to create a slight bend. This seems to have created better contact between the contacts but hasn’t cured the flapping motion.
I’ve also:
swapped the relays around
dismantled the binnacle light switch and cleaned it
bypassed the binnacle light switch
disconnected and checked the column stalk
none of these have fixed it and I’ve run out of ideas. Can anyone offer any suggestions?
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Seen between Frant Road and Mount Ephraim I was in Ice Blue Turbo Esprit
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I'm looking for a full spare set of keys too but would like to get originals if at all possible. This is what my current set consists of
Ignition - Curtis AA-3 / USA. Key code BLxxxxN
Doors - Wilmot Breedon FT / Made in England
Fuel cap - Dominion Lock (DL) WS11 / Made in Canada
Boot - HD / BL/RO (this is the same shape as the ignition key. Online sources seems to show AA-3 and BL/RO and related)
I know Lotus made the most of sourcing parts from other manufacturers but to have keys (and therefore locks) made in 3 different countries of three different shapes and sizes seems a bit unusual. I'm therefore wondering if my keys are replacements cut from any available blank. My 1977 Daimler has different door, ignition and boot keys and they are different shapes and sizes too but at least they are all Wilmot Breedon and follow a logical coding system that it is easy to find replacements for.
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On 10/12/2020 at 21:21, dr_jayhart said:
So I went and saw the Black dry sump for sale today as a restoration project.
Black with cream interior and on BBS.
I believe the number was 11259.
Needs paint and interior.
YAH 855X is 1249
On 15/12/2020 at 11:09, Lex Templar said:1308
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On 14/04/2020 at 04:43, Lex Templar said:
need an ID on this one too. could be 1131 with a rego change.
Recently received a full resto by South West Lotus.
Lextemplar couldn't help but mention the colour coding and decals...😂
11271 incase you haven't figured that out already.
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Chassis number SCC085912FHD12253
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On 28/10/2020 at 21:53, makkyh said:
Sorry I missed this thread. He signed this car at Hethel. I wish him well.
Can't believe I hear you're thinking of selling!
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@Lex Templar yes I am, I cover all the wedge Lotus' now. Have got 172 Elite, 245 Eclat, 1553 Excel and 4005 Esprit with varying amounts of data from just reg and chassis number up to full build record. I haven't been on here in a while as I also have a Jaguar/Daimler XJC register and with a bit of spare time during lockdown have been learning to build a website for all the data. I aim to do something similar to this for the wedge Lotus' eventually.
Take a look at work in progress here and what data a Lotus site might have: www.xjc-register.co.uk
Here is what I have in terms of Esprit, split by vin sequence formats
S1 - 173
S2 - 227
S2.2/S3/Turbo - 1619
X180/SE - 1034
S4/SE/S300/S4s/V8/GT3 - 509
V8 SE/V8 GT/GT3/S350 - 443
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On 21/02/2020 at 22:54, Lex Templar said:
@LJR it’s well documented as 790.
in early Essex registry’s it’s not documented as 2.2L Turbo. Perhaps this first prototype chassis was in fact from as S2. See notes for 790 on the list above
The Essex pre-production and development cars all look correct on the list as per your notes Lucas
But shouldn't it be something like 79080790G rather than 10790? MPW 81V was 79110854G. Unless it was car built in November 10790 suggests its a 17 digit VIN car which doesn't make sense
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On 15/02/2020 at 19:33, LOTUSMAN33 said:
MPW80V was 10790 Mike
are you sure it wasn't 10890? 790 would have been a pre vin chassis number and therefore not prefixed with a 1. This should also make it a late S2 not even a S2.2
On 15/02/2020 at 15:01, G_Reaper said:Hi Guys
Its been a while since I was last on here and I cannot seem to log in?? G_Reaper
Anyway just a couple of things to think about.
Does anyone know anything about Essex 027?
I noticed on Stuart Monument's posts he states the black active suspension car was the first Essex pre-production prototype? Surely the first Essex pre-production car was the bond car 10858 (Essex No1) REG NCL458V. I was taken to understand the first 3 including my ex car MPW71V 10860 were the first 3 and utilised chassis numbers that fell between the end of the S2 production and the start of S2.2 production.
The distinction over the years as not counting the pre-production cars as as part of the Essex cars seems to have been now blurred by the fact 10858 was clearly photographed wearing the Essex wreath with No1 in it while doing its prototype work.
All very interesting.
Cheers Mike
From what I've read and heard from various sources including Andy Graham Lotus referred to D10858, D10859 + D10860 as development cars and D10895, D10896, D10897 + D10898 as Pre production.
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On 11/02/2020 at 09:09, Jeanvm said:
😍Riviera are already rare. I wonder how many JPS Riviera there are?
0 - Lotus never did a JPS Elite or Eclat
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Does anyone have contact details for Angus Watson? I have the 1982 Motorshow Turbo Esprit and have been trying to identify the Elite, Excel and S3 on the stand from that year.
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There were different sequences for different markets so not necessarily. Given where you are located your 12 digit will probably not be a D which means there were another 9 built in the sequence after yours.
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On 22/01/2020 at 01:19, Lex Templar said:
@LJR see above, just seeing if you have any input. As far as I'm aware tobacco and brown are the same thing and Lotus only refer to it as 'Brown' leather in history.
The Bond car according to Andy Graham is 'Brown Leather'
I think any variation is down to fading. To me this looks the same as the other images we have seen of other brown leather Esprits. Maybe it's a brighter photo here.
Yes I've only ever seen it referred to as brown by Lotus. Their interior colour names have never been that adventurous so Tobacco would be an anomaly. I wonder if it has been confused by the very rare exterior paint colour Tabac
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For the UK there were 135 or 136 HC Turbo and 45 HC NA. These numbers I have got from certificates issued by Andy Graham. European LHD numbers were significantly lower than UK throughout production so I would guess at 10-15
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13/67 were in Black
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@bgalbraith where did you get all that chassis no. info from? Very interesting to look through
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I was at that auction, the black car with red interior. They were originally asking 18k for it, over restored in my opinion though. Interior didn't fit the age of the car. I went to buy the Riviera but pulled out when it went past 6k
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I was thinking the same thing
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On 03/04/2019 at 01:50, Lex Templar said:
Some good new information regarding Bond Specification production cars confirmed also, including the missing 2 x white/brown serial numbers of 1980.
5 x Monaco white/full brown leather Production Turbo Esprit for the UK (1 with no roof top stereo)
??/?? #0928 white/brown – Lotus company car (1 of 3 1980)
10/80 #0929 white/brown – currently in Miami Dezer collection - Not production spec. Build records not available. 2.2 normally aspirated engine confirmed by factory records.
12/80 #0953 white/brown (2 of 3 1980)
12/80 #0954 white/brown – Reg OPW 667W referred to as white heat road test car, not SORN since 1982 (3 of 3 1980)
08/81 #0982 Registration PPK 65X originally white/brown car, now white w/red. (1 of 2 1981)
08/81 #1035 white/brown, no roof mounted stereo or AC. (2 of 2 1981)
#0928 + #0954 have not re-surfaced to date.
Lex.
PPK 65X had been painted blue, has it been changed back to white? Also I did a DVLA check of chassis vs reg no. before GDPR when there were ways to access their database and OPW 667W aka Whiteheat is 0928. 0954 I believe is in the US
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someone at the NEC restoration show approached the Excel stand saying they had one for sale and there is a black one with black leather that I'm waiting for photos to come through of. There is also a blue RHD one in Germany and a silver one in Italy for sale at the moment
GIUGIARO S3/TURBO INTERIOR COLOURS
in Esprit Chat
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Taking that into account as well I've seen:
Cloth: Black, Blue, Gold, Red, Sand
Half Leather: Black, Blue, Blue leather with Grey Pigskin, Champagne, Green, Gold, Gold leather with Pigskin, Red, Sand Leather/Gold Velour, Silver
Full Leather: Black, Blue, Brown, Champagne, Gold, Red, Silver