Web
Analytics Made Easy - Statcounter
lrg_machine's Content - Page 8 - The Lotus Forums - Official Lotus Community Partner Jump to content


lrg_machine

Basic Account
  • Posts

    717
  • Joined

  • Last visited

Posts posted by lrg_machine

  1. I'm not saying everyone should make phone calls from forecourts or call people during take-off, I just don't like being told what to do when there's no good reason.

    As I said previously, if you can use your mobile then so can everyone else.

    if there's roughly 300,000 people in the sky at any one time and just half of those decide to use their phone your 1:1000000000 chance of something happening has just been cut so dramatically that it's harder to win the lottery, and someone does win that most weeks.

    Plus I don't want to be sat on a 10 hour flight with someone next to me prattling away, or mobiles ringing, it's bad enough on trains.

  2. Again, it's not so much that a mobile will or has interfered with an aircraft flight system it's the fact that it could and the risk however small is completely avoidable, switch them all off.

    also you're thinking why can't I use MY mobile on a plane, if you can so can everyone else and all of a sudden you've got 200 people making those important & urgent phone calls to find out what they're missing on the telly.

    All it would take is a badly shielded, or indeed damaged shielding on a system and a new type of mobile that everyone must, just must have and a plane is suddenly heading toward the north pole instead of Barbados, or worse.

    Also the mast switching argument is bollox, if major mobile phone carriers can't handle a couple of hundred phone switching at the same time they seriously need to rethink their systems, I work in telephony (probably why I hate mobiles) and we deal with systems that handle users in the 10s of thousands and we're by no means a major player.

  3. 47) People who don't know the difference between There, Their and They're

    48) Txt Spk in email

    49) Mobile Phones in restaurants, theatres & cinemas

    50) The new Iceland adverts, in fact all of the old Iceland adverts as well but especially the new one

    51) Central heating that breaks down at the first sign of a cold snap.

  4. I have to disagree with you, Jeremy and Justin. If you guys are so intend in avoiding risks that small, you shouldn't be driving to the petrol stations in the first place.

    So I guess you're the person on the transatlantic flight using their mobile phone in the toilet while smoking, do mobiles affect aircraft, unlikely, highly unlikely. Have all mobile models been tested against all flight equipment, No, simple solution...... turn the f*#king things off. Same thing at petrol stations.

    I'm not intent on wrapping everyone in cotton wool and removing all risk from life, the OP asked a question I attempted to answer it, to reiterate it's not the general use of a mobile it's the static discharge that is the issue.

    one point in the original post was

    "Don't re-enter your vehicle during fuelling."

    This HAS been the cause of accidents involving static discharge at fuel pumps, people, mainly women, getting back into their cars to do whatever, answer that oh so important call etc. then getting back out and touching the car. Spark, fumes, whoooshhh !

    So if you want to live dangerously

    remember your filling up kit next time you visit the petrol station

    Nice bit of nylon carpet to walk up and down on

    Big balloon to rub on your jumper (sweater for the Americans)

    and a dog to pat while you comb your hair

    :P

  5. "It would probably be a one in a million chance that a mobile phone could ignite fuel vapor, but there are a hell of a lot of fuel bowsers, cars and mobile phones in the world."

    I think I made that point in my first post, better safe than sorry.

    people do win the lottery most weeks!

    Flying is the safest form of travel but planes do crash!

    personally I think mobile phones are the bane of the modern world and welcome the day when they're treated the same way as smoking.

    And as far as Mythbusters go, they do produce a very entertaining show even if most of their methods are somewhat suspect, they are NOT professors of physics, chemistry or engineering, they're special effects bods with a workshop and a budget.

  6. As I said in my earlier post, the general use of a mobile is highly unlikely to cause ignition of fuel vapour, however, it's not so much the use of a mobile but the ESD electro static discharge that could occur from using a device like this.

    Things to consider

    the fuel to air ratio needs to be correct for ignition

    the ignition source needs to be sufficient

    a quote from Shell

    “…portable cell phones properly used do not represent a meaningful hazard on

    the retail forecourt. Without doubt, apart from the human acts of smoking and

    striking a match, the thing that represents the greatest hazard on the retail

    forecourt is the motorcar!”

    That said most accidents caused have been due to ESD.

    So next time you're filling up and a dog comes up to you, think twice before you start patting it or rubbing it's fur near the pump.....

    You have been warned ;)

    Ohh yeah!

    And just because the Mythbusters say it's busted, doesn't mean it is.

    No matter how foxy Kari Byron is :wub:

  7. I think petrol stations in the UK are classed as zone one hazardous areas, (explosive vapour is expected during normal running) I may be wrong on this it's been 10 years since I did any of this stuff, anyway it's probably more due to the idea that electrical equipment has to be classified for use in hazardous areas (mobiles aren't) and it's better to be safe than sorry, you can't test every mobile in every situation so turn them all off, just because it hasn't happened yet doesn't mean it wont.

    Blow up petrol station... There's an app for that :)

×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

We use cookies to enhance your browsing experience, serve personalized ads or content, and analyze our traffic. By clicking " I Accept ", you consent to our use of cookies. We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue.