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Elise Cup 250 - Exhaust too loud for track?


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I've heard the recent Elise Cup 250 has a super loud exhaust - can anyone confirm if this is too much for trackdays?

Considering (only a little) replacing my V6 with a Cup.

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1 hour ago, TonyKL said:

I've heard the recent Elise Cup 250 has a super loud exhaust - can anyone confirm if this is too much for trackdays?

Considering (only a little) replacing my V6 with a Cup.

Why my i ask a little?

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7 hours ago, scotty435 said:

Why my i ask a little?

My last few track days I've been spending far too much time at the fuel pumps.  Have been considering that an Elise might make more sense given how many track days I plan to do next year.  Also, the V6 is a very fast car (which I'm fine with) where as an Elise might make things more fun / engaging.

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From memory static @ Goodwood in my Cup 250 was around 95dB I think, I was on a 105 day at the time but remember the guy saying I would be good to go on a 98 day too.

1982 DeLorean DMC 12 #16327, 1999 Lotus Elise, 1998 Lotus Esprit GT3 #2272, 2011 Lotus Evora S, 2013 Lotus Exige S,2016 Lotus Evora 400,2019 Lotus Elise Cup 250

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Doesn’t sound right to me, unless Lotus have changed the exhaust since March. 

1982 DeLorean DMC 12 #16327, 1999 Lotus Elise, 1998 Lotus Esprit GT3 #2272, 2011 Lotus Evora S, 2013 Lotus Exige S,2016 Lotus Evora 400,2019 Lotus Elise Cup 250

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17 hours ago, TonyKL said:

I've heard the recent Elise Cup 250 has a super loud exhaust - can anyone confirm if this is too much for trackdays?

Considering (only a little) replacing my V6 with a Cup.

Mine was delivered new end of june. If this is louder than the first exhaust, I really don't want to know how silent the previous version sounded.

In my opinion it is very quiet. Then again, my judgement is clouded as my daily is a straight piped C63 and in comparison everything is silent. 
On video footage / drive-by's from my car on trackdays, it really doesn't sound loud though. I don't think you should have any issue with dB limits.

Regular stock Megane RS type of cars are louder than the Cup 250. I always feel like I have one of the most silent cars on track and never had any dB issues.

And your point is very valid, same reason I bought a 250 instead of 430 for track usage.

  • Better steering feedback over 430
  • Significant lower running cost on tires/brakes/fuel
  • Very rewarding to drive and it encourages perfect driving more because mistakes get punished a lot more by lack of HP.
  • Much more stable on hard corner exits and really locked in. Drives on rails!
  • I do a lot of laps on trackdays and the fuel consumption was actually mindblowing to me. Very low, even with the stock tiny fuel tank. Very enjoyable (because smaller tanks here don't have fuel pumps on site)

You will enjoy it A LOT on track :)

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Well just checked my V5! Certainly doesn’t sound that loud and like I said Goodwood tested my car 🤷‍♂️
 

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1982 DeLorean DMC 12 #16327, 1999 Lotus Elise, 1998 Lotus Esprit GT3 #2272, 2011 Lotus Evora S, 2013 Lotus Exige S,2016 Lotus Evora 400,2019 Lotus Elise Cup 250

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3 minutes ago, internets said:

Well just checked my V5!

Thank you very much for taking the time to look, I can only assume that 103db is just what they put down.  If it's true that would be obscene!

As an aside, do you have pictures of your RED Cup?  Red is a colour I am considering (the Renault flame red perhaps).  Love to go for Liquid Yellow but think that's too bright for me.  Blue does look good but was something with a little more oomph.

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Jamie @ B&C confirmed its mid nineties. 

From collection day 🙂 

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1982 DeLorean DMC 12 #16327, 1999 Lotus Elise, 1998 Lotus Esprit GT3 #2272, 2011 Lotus Evora S, 2013 Lotus Exige S,2016 Lotus Evora 400,2019 Lotus Elise Cup 250

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16 minutes ago, internets said:

It’s solid red.

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Bloody lovely, many don’t like the black accents but I think it break up the car a little and looks great. More so on a lighter colour which is my dilemma as I’m not that shouty. 👍

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9 hours ago, TonyKL said:

Bloody lovely, many don’t like the black accents but I think it break up the car a little and looks great. More so on a lighter colour which is my dilemma as I’m not that shouty. 👍

Hard not to be shouty with that big wing in the back haha.

I still feel kinda sad I didn't go for isotope green! I also went for something that was a bit more 'quiet' and it does look good in metallic grey (old carbon grey they had)... just not as good as isotope hehe

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Also, they did change the Aero after MY 17.5 and went for smaller aero. Some people prefer it, some don't. I prefer it. Makes the car look a bit more mature imho.

 

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7 hours ago, TonyKL said:

Love the carbon!  Does it hold up well, I worry that it will take a hammering on track?

I have ppf on the whole car but you can do just front and carbon bits if you want. I’ve driven on track a little over 1000km’s and when I say ‘drive on track’ , I really mean putting the hammer down and give the car a beating.

So far, zero issues. The ppf xpel seems to be doing a great job so far!

All the exterior parts in carbon look dropdead gorgeous in real life so I can recommend if you can spare the money.

To give you a better idea of how the carbon parts look like IRL, I attached a small video I made on pickup.

 

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That carbon is lush - I'm tempted with the aero pack but then I'd want the access/bonnet to match, and then I'd want the roof to match and then I've ran out of money - lol

I also think that if you go carbon you have to choose a colour to match whereas the Matt Black is easier to contrast.

Seriously, I will probably choose the cf sills and vents for inside - just to make the cabin feel a little different from my last 2 exiges.

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1 hour ago, TonyKL said:

That carbon is lush - I'm tempted with the aero pack but then I'd want the access/bonnet to match, and then I'd want the roof to match and then I've ran out of money - lol

I also think that if you go carbon you have to choose a colour to match whereas the Matt Black is easier to contrast.

Seriously, I will probably choose the cf sills and vents for inside - just to make the cabin feel a little different from my last 2 exiges.

Don't go for door sills in carbon from Lotus. They ask 1.7k if I remember correctly. I bought the carbon ones from Komo-tec instead and they look great. 

Going to install them within 2 weeks when I'm doing alcantara trim on mine. Get alcantara airvents... combine them with carbon sills from Komo and it looks amazing interior wise!

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