S1 Project car - part 2 - the continuation

[Paul Coleman]

I saw that Steve Fulcher has just finished re-trimming a white S1 in tartan/green/orange AND it has a clock inbetween the sun visors. Does it belong to anybody we know?

[Lotusfab]

Havn't seen one, sure its nit the oress car done some years back?

Still waiting fir my seats and door cards.

[Paul Coleman]

I saw it on Facebook. He posted some photos earlier today.

[Lotusfab]

Headlights.

Anyone having trouble with these this might help. I had a pod that randomly would either stay down or up . You spin the pod motor manually slightly and the pod would move again. The problem was the switch in the pod. Its very simple just a common power wire and copper strip. When the gear wheel rotates( only in one direction) a cam on the wheel pushes the contact up and breaks the circuit. Over time the copper strip has bent and fails to remake contact when the cam travels away. You can run the motor with the cover plate off and watch the contacts. You can see easily when they are not working. Solution, bend the strip and clean the contacts. There are a lot of complicated explanations. By far the easiest way to sort this problem is to run the motor with the switching cover off and just enough screws to hold the switch in position while the cam operates. 

My project now is out if my hands theres nothing I can do until I get the glass back from Pilkington and the door cards and seats from Steve Fulcher.

[Lotusfab]

Paul, not on Facebook. Probably my car on there. Does the clock say Yeager?

[Lotusfab]

This is probably the best thing I have seen for years, enjoy!

 

[Paul Coleman]

10 hours ago, Lotusfab said:

Paul, not on Facebook. Probably my car on there. Does the clock say Yeager?

No. It's not your car because he's done the whole car.

[Lotusfab]

Bored with not having the glass to reassemble the doors I decided to remove and service the wiper motor. Not easy to get at lying upside down in the all too familiar Lotus position. I' m glad I did. The motor was in poor condition with hardened grease, the end float nut too tight and one of the brushes completely Brocken on the base plate. Don't understand how the two motor speeds seem to work?

[silverfrost]

Is that not something to do with power supply and not gearing ? more power faster operation maybe ?

[Lotusfab]

The schematic is spot on except for the small ball bearing and fibre washer at the bottom of the armature. These require engineering oil. I used a pipe cleaner and electrical contact cleaner to remove all the grease. If the end float nut is too tight it seriously reduces the motor performance. I ordered new brushes and base plate from Auto electrical spares. This motor is 16W, the new base plate will require some adjustment. There's a wavy washer on the gear wheel shaft.

Hi Dan,

yep the third middle brush had broke away from the base plate. Should have only had one motor speed, but there seemed to be two speeds when selected?

[Lotusfab]

the grease had gone hard and collected in the corner. This caused some resistance to the gear wheel rotation. Have now cleaned it all away.

[Lotusfab]

The center brush is completely broken!

[Lotusfab]

This was the only replacement part I could find. Might need some adjustment.

[Lotusfab]

To get the gear wheel out you have to remove the clip.

[silverfrost]

2 hours ago, Lotusfab said:

The schematic is spot on except for the small ball bearing and fibre washer at the bottom of the armature. These require engineering oil. I used a pipe cleaner and electrical contact cleaner to remove all the grease. If the end float nut is too tight it seriously reduces the motor performance. I ordered new brushes and base plate from Auto electrical spares. This motor is 16W, the new base plate will require some adjustment. There's a wavy washer on the gear wheel shaft.

Hi Dan,

yep the third middle brush had broke away from the base plate. Should have only had one motor speed, but there seemed to be two speeds when selected?

May of been getting current possibly from carbon deposit build up off the third worn brush, you would be suprized how a current can travel/track over the worn residue 

[Lotusfab]

Has anyone ever taken their wiper motor to pieces? Can't find any pictures on here but think their should be a plastic guide for the drive arm within th3 motor case, like this one? The Lotus motor is unusual as it is16W. All the rest are 14W.

You can see the white plastic guide on the left in the picture. I believe to be missing this part, might explain a lot!

[Lotusfab]

After hunting the Internet for weeks have finally found a definitive document for Lucas motor servicing, here it is.

[Mark Gurney]

If you guys had a spare $5,760.00 you could of also got the ultimate luggage for your S1. 
The Asprey cases from The Spy Who Love Me that they load into the boot, Lot 942 - 
http://www.juliensauctions.com/auctions/2015/ringo-starr-barbara-bach/results.html

[Paul Coleman]

9 hours ago, Mark Gurney said:

If you guys had a spare $5,760.00 you could of also got the ultimate luggage for your S1. 
The Asprey cases from The Spy Who Love Me that they load into the boot, Lot 942 - 
http://www.juliensauctions.com/auctions/2015/ringo-starr-barbara-bach/results.html

Wow, looking through that list I bet they'd never had so much tat for sale in one room! e.g.

Lot 341

TWO PAINTED PLASTER CHERUBS

$256.00

Very tasteful. I'm sure they'll look lovely on somebody's mantle piece. Just goes to show... the bigger your house, the more s**t you collect!!

And what about...

Lot 696

RINGO STARR #1 LUDWIG DRUM KIT

$2,110,000.00

$2.1m!!!! Somebody must obviously be a fan. When asked if Ringo Starr was the best drummer in the world John Lennon replied "He's not even the best drummer in the Beatles" hahaha

I'm sure he's laughing all the way to the bank

[Lotusfab]

Bit pricey for some luggage!

[Mark Gurney]

5 hours ago, Paul Coleman said:

Wow, looking through that list I bet they'd never had so much tat for sale in one room! e.g.

Lot 341

TWO PAINTED PLASTER CHERUBS

$256.00

Very tasteful. I'm sure they'll look lovely on somebody's mantle piece. Just goes to show... the bigger your house, the more s**t you collect!!

And what about...

Lot 696

RINGO STARR #1 LUDWIG DRUM KIT

$2,110,000.00

$2.1m!!!! Somebody must obviously be a fan. When asked if Ringo Starr was the best drummer in the world John Lennon replied "He's not even the best drummer in the Beatles" hahaha

I'm sure he's laughing all the way to the bank

I looked at all of the lots last year; there were a few interesting items for Beatles fans but also a load of old tut on offer. 
Nice Asprey luggage but went for more than I expected....it only got 22 secs screen time :-) 

 

[Lotusfab]

Found this wiring circuit. It appears from my motor the only adjustment to the park position is by moving the wiper on the spline of the wheel box.

The circuit shows when the wiper switch is off it connects power to the motor through the switch. The cam on the gear wheel opens the switch contact and cuts the power off as the wiper parks, if only it worked!

[Lotusfab]

Well have had a good look at the wiper armature. It is black and appears to have oxidised as a result of overheat damage. So am currently trying to source another one. The problem is its 16W. This is unusual. The 16 W motor was used on some other cars such as the triumph TR7 and Stag. Also the reliant Scimitar. It's a case of waiting or rewinding the armature. The original brush plate has also fallen to pieces due to the overheat damage. You can buy remanufactured motors but they are only 14 W. Will post the solution.

[Paul Coleman]

The wiper motor in my Esprit looks the same as the one in my Daughter's 1976 Mini. Not sure if they are actually the same though?

[Lotusfab]

On the case it says the wattage. The mini is a 14W motor with different gear wheel.