Cutting out

[mike_sekinger]

Going to be needing one of these....

 

[redshift]

Not sure yet Mike, You see that yellow moulding at the back of the pump.
Well on mine it looks more like a miniature 4 pin connector rather than a moulded temination and the wires look rather blackened at that point.

Does anyone know if that is a connector on the later models (changed in 2001 apparently). Having pulled those wires I have the primary pump back and the car runs normally. I think I may have a burnt connector there?

Edit to add a picture of what it looks like.

 

Edited January 28, 2017 by redshift

[mike_sekinger]

Well that is an interesting development.   More worrying is why the connector is burnt.  I'd be crapping myself at the idea of that happening again.......

[redshift]

Trying to get a pic this gives an idea

[swindon_alan]

That's a great find Pete, well spotted. Indeed, that is rather scary...

Can you pull the connector apart?

[redshift]

58 minutes ago, swindon_alan said:

That's a great find Pete, well spotted. Indeed, that is rather scary...

Can you pull the connector apart?

Not really hence the question "Is it a connector or not." It could well be a corroded connector. Mike's pic shows a moulded termination whereas the later pumps look  like its a connector

[mike_sekinger]

Indeed a good discovery.  I would worry about being able to 'engineer'  a repair that was safe enough to be deployed.

[fjmuurling]

Hi Mike,

do you have any details / information about the tool for fitting / removing the locking ring of the fuelpump?

[mike_sekinger]

Hi Freek,

Kent Moore J-35731

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kent-Moore-Fuel-Tank-Unit-Sending-Wrench-W-Car-J-35731-/231075275317

 

[Barrykearley]

Hammer and a screwdriver did the job for mine - think that's a far safer option Mike has proposed!!! My tanks were empty at the time as they drained from all the holes in the bottom 

I'd not be wishing to bodge that repair - needs replacement and repair to the loom at few inches away

[redshift]

Its tempting to send her back to Esprit Engineering and get them to pull the tanks and inspect/replace as needed and fit new pumps.
Having spent part of the morning lying on the engine it apppears that the discoloration of the yellow plastic is actually grease or oil and the plastic underneath is just fine. The insulation is splitting off the cables and the copper is tarnished black underneath.

Might run it for a while using the secondary pump.

[redshift]

Final info just to wrap this up.

The yellow moulding is not a connector on the outside. It is just the external bridge part of the internal double connector that each of the submerged pumps plugs into.
So if there is a burnt connector it will be inside the tank.
New pump assembly coming.

[redshift]

Have just managed to extract the pump module. I think the fuel lines were tightened by Guy Martin! (FT, FT if you remember the Spitfire programme)

That yellow piece is a moulded 4 pin right angle plug that  goes through the top plate and a 4 pin socket connects to the pumps inside.

This is what it looks like now: Scary stuff!

[mike_sekinger]

Holy crap Pete, you were very lucky !..... 

[redshift]

Looks like I should have bought a Euromillions ticket in January Mike!

I'd feel luckier if I could get the retaining cam ring back in place without your whizzo factory tool

Having filed down the start  edges of the cam ring It went back without to much loss of blood

Edited February 18, 2017 by redshift
Update

[redshift]

All back together now and 20 km test drive completed to relearn the ECU

Think the hydraulic tappets had drained off while its been sittting in the garage, sounded like a bag of spanners on first fire up.