DrBru

So ive now had just over 1 week with the RS6 and absolutely love it... Strange enough, on my way back from where I bought the car, whilst filling up with petrol i was approached by someone with a 430 cup who is also active on here. Lets put it this way, he was very interested in my car and I was very interested in his car so essentially some decent mutual respect going on for two very different cars but equally effective in what they intend to respectively do

Ive currently got an F10 m5 which i will be selling soon....Fast but haven't really enjoyed the experience overall if im honest..Prior to the M5 I had a B7 RS4 avant...Prob the best car ive owned by some margin on so many fronts

Blimey guys lol! Anyways, im a 42 year old bloke who works for the NHS so ive heard all of the stories so i know what im getting myself into. I have a family so won't be popping wheelies or anything stupid like that asks for trouble... The fact that I have a family is the reason for the RS6 and im not sure how that can be described as yuck yuck yuck. What would you suggest as a better family car that can do it all? I did look at older Exige 350 but again I see them as very expensive in this market and cant necessarily justify that and I bike....and a family car

I’m in the uk and all the research I’ve done suggest it’s v good started bike believe it or not. as far as the question around insurance I can’t get anyone to insure me until I have my license so the dealer is kindly holding it for me until I pass!

So ive basically been looking for a new car for the last 2 years but only got serious after we bought our new house last summer and established what my exact budget was. I originally considered a GTR, C7 RS6, 911 turbo s, Merc E63 AMG S Wagon and of course an Exige 410/430 With the used car market as it is im not sure I can wait any longer, firstly because im getting a little tired of waiting for the right car and secondly because prices are still crazy and could well still rise for second hand cars Roll on mid life crisis and a decision has been made...Ive bought a brand new Yamaha R7 bike which hopefully won't kill me when I get my license in the next few weeks. This should hopefully give me my adrenaline fix but ive also decided on a C7 RS6. Both of those will cost at least 15k cheaper than the equivalent 410/430 that I was after. Didn't quite end up where I wanted to be but im still happy and it is what it is....No doubt one day I will be back lurking around

I have to admit I find it strange that people are prepared to pay so much over the odds in what appears to be a bubble. Lets say the market is inflated by 20-30%....Not such a big deal I suppose if you are looking to purchase a little runaround Ford fiesta or something that is around the 5k mark but if you are looking at a 100k budget, then that percentage increase is huge. I started off around 12 months ago with a healthy budget of 80-90k for my next performance car. A lotus 410/430 and Audi R8 v10 plus ended up being my top choices but with the current market Im not prepared to pay a premium so looks like ill need to be a little more patient

So across the board for any new to me car im considering, prices are crazy!! not sure what to believe with regards to what I read...ie prices will stay high for a while and may even increase but id be interested to know if cars are actually selling at the prices advertised as I see a lot sitting around for a long time Can anyone remind me what the 410 and 430 cars originally retailed at please Thanks

This is a tough one and think there are multiple factors at play....For all types of performance cars dealers are asking a lot. Im in the market for one of the following, 410/430 cup, GTR or 911 turbo s....All appear at least in my opinion to be over priced and im not convinced that cars are shifting for their original asking prices. For me anyway, it doesn't feel like the right time to buy so Im happy to wait for the right car at the right price even if that means waiting another 6 months Im not sure its an Emira effect either because at least on paper the Emira seems a completely different car to the Exige and wouldn't necessarily be an upgrade at all - yes new tech and it looks stunning but its not an exige and definitely not an upgrade to an exige. No doubt they will sell but I cant see many 410/430 owners dumping their cars to get into the Emira - I think it will attract a different type of buyer if it is being compared to things like a cayman and at a starting price of 60k thats very different money to a second hand 410 or 430 that in general seem to be more expensive when they appear on the market

Interesting to see you are considering a GTR as well which puts us both in the same boat. I personally dont think the Emira will negatively impact upon the exige as its different in so many different ways and is no way its replacement. This will know doubt keep the prices strong for the exiges however........ Dealers can ask what they want and they can chose to listen or not listen to the market.. Bottom line is they can hold on to the car for as long as they want but if no one is bighting they will eventually have to drop the price I never thought things like 410s and 430s would turn over quickly due to the nature of what they are in what is already a niche ish market however there seem to be few and far between actually coming up for sale. A lot of choice for something like the GTR which as you say has strong values as well but not a lot of choice for 410s and 430s

Thanks guys...very interesting to hear your views....So, the reason I was considering a nearly new GTR is that I see some of the older ones as just too high risk..There are so many out there that have been absolutely thrashed so Id only buy a nearly new one with warranty... Completely take your point over running costs as well; the GTR does sound unjustifiably high if you stick with Nissan (which is why most people go down the Litchfield route) - I think its basically going to come down to what I can find for the best money as I see them both as awesome cars!

Granted I think the running costs of the Exiges are going to be far less than say a GTR or something like a turbo s...Ive driven all of the Exiges and whilst the 350/390 are really good, i did think there was a fair difference with the 410 etc. I actually believe the prices on the Exiges won't really drop and could even increase in the future but Im still stuck trying to get my head around spending 80k on one....If I could find a second hand 410 around the 60-70k bracket I would def go for that over the other cars that I have mentioned but haven't seen a single 410 under 70k other than the odd one in a colour that I dont like

Very useful to hear everyones thoughts and I appreciate that I am on a lotus forum so the exige is always going to come out on top... I think this decision would be a lot easier to make if there were more second hand examples of 410s and 430s on the market but as they are not im basically looking to spend around 70-80k on an exige and I guess im just struggling to spend that amount on an Exige if im honest

im honestly in such a dilemma .....Ive thought about RS6, turbo s, exige +family car and GTR + family car and i have been debating what to get for quite some time with Covid etc preventing me from getting the test drives I need i have to admit im leaning towards the GTR because I feel like I will get so much more of an overall package compared to the Exige if I could afford a newer turbo s Id get that for the 4 seats and RS6 is at the bottom of the list even though I love it...but it will depreciate the worst out of the options Ultimately I am going to have to drive a few to decide but even if I go down the route of a 410 or 430 cup I feel as though Ill be waiting a while for the right car as not many come up for sale often especially the 430s

I honestly love the exige but I guess im struggling due to the fact that I cant really find what I want at the right price second hand ( I never buy brand new) Ive got a 100k budget....80k will be for my "toy" and the other 20k for a new family estate. I have previously considered a 911 turbo s (but would have to be a 7 year old car) or an RS6 but Im at the stage of my life where I think i only have this one opportunity to buy something stupid....Hence I think my preference is the Gtr or exige 80k pretty much buys you a nearly new GTR or 410/430 cup. I guess im just struggling to justify spending 80k on the lotus where ideally Id be more comfortable spending around 410 on a used 410 which appear few and far between.

So what do people think of 2017 onwards Nissan GTRs....A comparable experience compared to exiges in terms of driving experience with the added benefit of more practically??