dodge1979

Surely between the two of you there can be one esprit that works? Come on now boys.. Oh n mark..welcome. we can have a chinwag about your brakes too.

breadcrumbs for me bazza..left them in the oven a bit too long but they wernt a total write off...*sniggers*

Well..its the age old industry problem and thats about it. Its not worth arguing over particulars between anyone. However said, anyone who was interested in the car from the initial add would have access to all repair details photos etc..BUT as I said price seems to be the hot topic. Drop it 5k and its a good buy. Still the same car though. Its all about perception and that is the big problem we have with the Esprit. Its hard work to change people's perception about our cars in terms of cost, reliability and how difficult they are to work on. As such they suffer. The cars are reasonably priced..most of the time. I find the overpriced ones are usually In need of a lot of work that is typical of the esprit..ie a ford focus havin had a major service 1500 miles ago but that was 3 yrs ago doesnt ring any bells with most folk.on an esprit it should say overdue and needs doing again. Yet those who are selling say its fine. Its not. Simple. the parts availablity isnt bad really if you think about it for a specialist car. Prices are not bad either on common used items. In terms of working on them. There is nothing that is actually difficult if you apply yourself correctly and DONT CUT CORNERS. there are a lot of cars out there that would not be in existence if the owners hadnt looked past the initial stigma attached to the issue.. I know a few as do we all. If a job is done correctly and to top standard there should be no question on it and it should not affect desirability or value. Engine rebuilds are attractive if done to top standards. .even if it threw a conrod or cracked a liner to cause it. now these things I feel are the real issues facing the esprit and its value. Its all about the image and its got the looks but too many years being dogged by other owners poor ownership or other peoples view of the ownership of the car have kept it below the radar of the true appreciation. But times are changing and there moving towards owners who can look past the initial issues and realise that the only stigma or dogma is that with which you place yourself upon any given esprit. As this thread started off about esprit prices it should move back to it..and be open and honest whether your selling buying owning..the time of the Esprit is going to come to fruition within the next decade securely and the next generation of owners. .ie us..will help the next generation of owners or potential admirers with the right information and facts as opposed to a lot of ingrained rubbish that is now slowly being combated.. My fish fingers are now ready so ill be busy appreciating those

Theres only so much you can put in an add however it is fully photographed and even videoed before during and after for anyone to see..adds been changed now yes. The seller is an avid esprit fan and recognises this one as a nice example that should never have been written off for such minor damage. .as such extra work has been done to the car which warranted the extra mile which neccasarily didnt need doing in order to sell on. As I said..open door policy..which is rare these days in a lot of circles relating to specialist vehicles. However, stigma on cars sticks like shit. If it was priced a little lower the issue would not be so hot and would be taken into account as part of its pricing. BUT it really shouldnt have the stigma of cat d attached to it and thats the truth

As this thread has turned from an esprit prices thread to whats going on with that s4s..here is my 2penith worth. Slate me if you will... Dave (changes) has a lifetime of experience within and outside of the motor insurance industry. Without blowing anyones trumpet I dare say from my experience his Experience (with a capital E ) is capital and on the money without question. We all know the car and it was a lovely example..looked good next to my S4 on the esprit timeline last year! However, I'll stand up and say that the person selling the vehicle post repair is not dishonest or attempting to hide any truths. He has DELIBERATELY catalogued all stages of the repair on the vehicle in question to show how un-serious the repair was. On other notes he has also gone the extra mile and addressed a few other items on the vehicle, returning its interior trim to standard spec, replacing the body seals on the arch trims etc and all fastenings are stainless. Effort has been put in to the repair and indeed the rest of the car to ensure that it is a good example all over. with regards a comment above someone said that they would not touch a repaired car or esprit..well a good friend of mine ownes a cat d esprit and quite frankly when I did all the major service work on it a year ago I found it to be in far better condition than a lot of other esprits ive seen that have never been subject to any such repairs. the short of it is, whilst the original add wasnt as detailed as it should have been and has now been correctly amended, the in depth details of it are recorded and openly displayed in other media. the seller does have an "open door" policy should anyone want to go and see not just this but any other vehicle.. As I said at the start..slate me as you want. Just my opinion...

I hope your up so early Trev to put that rad in..

Now now boys...lets not start school boy pointing and laughing at each others (drill) bits..Trev itll probably be another week before im driving..Deffo another 2weeks before im back drivin the esprit..I think the breaky meet on the 6th April will be my first outing (droppin a link here)

The FE ones price will always be detached from reality. As will early S1.

I dont believe fleebay is the correct judgement of prices. Yes they have started to rise but dealers etc use fleebay as just another selling tool to advertise on..especially with slow moving stock. There are still a LOT of overpriced cars out there..mainly overpriced because of dealers or because of the well know. Buy it cheap realise the costs pass it on syndrome. Too many cars were bought cheap needing work..new owner realises after either the extent or cost and passes on and wants to recover the monies invested. Same issues are present but the initial purchase price has shot up. And there are still a few out there with deluded images of their car and its value..a chrome gt3 currently for example.. Genuine bargains are becoming rare because cars are either being broken for parts with no good reason other than its easier and generates more long term income than the value of the unit as a whole currently..or because the above mentioned..everyone can afford to buy but not to do scenario

A uk rum shortage sparky??

Id love to but im still not drivin post-op.. and thats not the sex change one this time.

Ah...easy job! no excuses now....get those attendance numbers up too!

just giving this a bump...make sure your all aware!

Dust??? That's the same switch whos body is made In italy and PVL buy in..

It was october. A bit later than usual. Its an annual run out for esprits..itll be happening again this year..post up in the events section later in the summer.

Taken last year on the Esprit Aberdovey run..my S4 in the foreground, palmergeddon's S4 next, Trevsked's Sport350 next and you can just make out Changes' next to that

1 Dodge1979 2 Sparky 3 Comrad Trev 4 Rocket 5 Palmergeddon 6 Changes 7 Chris V8 8

yes back on track.... 1 Dodge1979 2 Sparky 3 Comrad Trev 4 Rocket 5 Palmergeddon 6 Changes 7 Chris V8 8

All are equal but some are more equal than others.. I understand

Happy days...spread the word amongst your fellow Borisland dwellers

As discussed with a few people last week its decided a breakfast meet with the guys further south is due..pretty much the same score as last time when we met at Frankie and Bennies in Banbury. Suggested date is Sunday April 6th. We can make it the same venue if everyone wants or if anyone has a nice alternative somewhere do suggest. But for now a show of numbers please... 1 dodge1979

As discussed with a few people last week its decided a breakfast meet with the guys further south is due..pretty much the same score as last time when we met at Frankie and Bennies in Banbury. Suggested date is Sunday April 6th. We can make it the same venue if everyone wants or if anyone has a nice alternative somewhere do suggest. But for now a show of numbers please... 1 dodge1979

As discussed with a few people last week its decided a breakfast meet with the guys further south is due..pretty much the same score as last time when we met at Frankie and Bennies in Banbury. Suggested date is Sunday April 6th. We can make it the same venue if everyone wants or if anyone has a nice alternative somewhere do suggest. But for now a show of numbers please... 1 dodge1979

Sorry I should have clarified I meant buying a well known brand at a high price on the assumption that its better than a cheaper brand. Ive never fitted cheapo nasty tyres ever to any car. But the products available today from manufacturers like khumo and hancook easily match the quality of more traditional big names. If you get me..