dodge1979

And at that taxing time of the month...there are many shoulders to lean on, understanding, knowing and sympathetic ones...if only we could put the mrs away for 3months a year!

Well glad you made our meet before your lay up! How long are you planning on putting her away for? Last year I put mine away, but.im.going to.see this year if.i.can push the boat out and use it through the winter... Best thing though is to keep popping out to visit and reasure her that shes still loved and will be given a good spanking come the sunny weather :-D

Ok, a little update. The general consensus is a central meet would be easier for all. That way, if its naff weather those that dont want to drive the lotus dont and those that do will still look cool if its good weather on the day we could always make an ad-hoc trip out for coffee and cakes somewhere :-D Ill take a look at good places locally and make a booking over the next week..somewhere that will have a good sunday menu and other choices too..if there are any dietary or allergen requirements let me know! We dont want anyone swelling up and turning purple n green... Ps can anyone whos been unsure let me know for.sure over the next week!

I do.often have to.ve sedated! Like I said this mornin...about ten pints should counter act the caffeine and cake intake! Dunno about anyone else but I had to.go.for an hour drive after the meet...just because...well everyone else had more than a five min journey there!

Glad everyone had a good morning (i hope!) was.good.to.see.a.group of.really good examples of the Esprit in all forms...the owners were ok too :-P Glad everyone had a good morning (i hope!) was.good.to.see.a.group of.really good examples of the Esprit in all forms...the owners were ok too :-P

Cheers ade! Well hopefully this will b good when it arrives...cant wait!

Weather? Itll be fine tomorrow! Dont fear!

Will be fantastic to see on the road...one of.our Esprit meets maybe! Im still looking for my barn find basket case g turbo for the next project..if anyone knows one!

UPDATE!!! Scrap the above, how.spooky...last night I found someone selling genuine region free (or uk compatible) dvd of teen agent! Well, it was only called that in the uk....everywhere else in the world it was 'if looks could kill'....so like an eager kid im awaiting its arrival next week :-D

Rondevous is.so.early because we all know chris will.be late! It balances out I guess..... Oh and breakfast is on at 9... Im reliably informed.that Dave is.grumpy if hes hungry in the morning...

I used to have it on tape..was searchin for.it last month...now, being the not very good with electrical appliances type of person...how do I do that! Within legal parameters of course ill need a video player thing? A scart lead?

Sorry clamped wasnt the right wording...i was in a rush to get off the loo (we all do our thinking there!) but still, when fully assembled and held together as one complete unit by whichever means, is what should have been there...anyhow, as the joints are moving, contracting, eexpanding etc there is a.risk of leakage. There has to be, no matter how minute..otherwise they wouldnt 'move' as designed..which is why I would be against that in a turbo setup with such extreme heat as per ours..any fluctuation will affect tuning and performance, you may not.notice this driving but (back to the dyno I know, sorry) it would be.visable on a dyno mapping.also, what are the long term effects on this type of joint in a turbo,high temperature aggressive environment..the slippers, the springs, their mounting points and tension etc...if anything that flexes,moves or expands/contracts is susceptible to failure in one manner or another, then is the risk not higher with multiple uses of these items on one application...if one tiny fault occurs, does this put the strain on the other items, pushing them beyond their individual function and as a whole, the unit is then not performing as it should...the same can be said of a.welded or cast manifold...but as that is.designed as one unit, not several assemblies, its chances are much less.. IF its design and build is correct.

Martin, I would guess the guys are meeting just off jct1 on the A5 north (3rd exit off the roundabout if your comming from the M1 end, under the carriageway, just past the Texaco garage), Hinckley, there is a harvester pub there with a large carpark...Im sure Nigel or Dave will tell you better though if this is where is best

update list then, have I missed anyone off??? 1) Dave...... Changes.. 2) Darren....Dodge 1979 3) Chris.......Ayrton 4) Nige......Nigeninja flying solo 5) Trevsked 6 )Whirlybird 7) hopo 8) Sparky 9) Bazza 907 10) Gingerpig 11) MartinL 12) Robington Alex did you say your good to go??

get a room!! or a garage

Daves heading from Wolverhampton..whetr are. You comming from?

Just spoke to mark (gingerpig) hes.comming up from Banbury too...Dave increase the tables booked!

As a general notification, there is a breakfast meet happening this Sunday at Leamington...its an Esprit meet which has gathered a few more than expected and as such, ive sent out a few pm's to more local owners previously, now we have interest from further afield and there are a group of Esprits headibg up from london way to join us. It would be good to see if anyone else from other parts of the country are interested in joining the growing numbers? There is a thread in the nmeg regional section regarding this..if so please either put your name down there or pm me and ill do it for.you and let yoy know details...

Well..looks like an even better turn out than expected! Itsa shame this isnt part of a hoon outing for the afternoon too! Or could it be......

Oh I know the.esprit wont produce those figures without serious development on all areas, and even then it wouldnt be anywhere up to 700bhp....but a slipper joint design might be capable of high power in a n/a,but the manifold wont in this application! But that digresses though..but on another note, if a slipper joint is clamped up correct and gas tight, surelt it will act as a solid unit when assembled...and what I think is the important factor in a manifold for the esprit, is.that a.design may work on.other.turbo applications but its the extreme heat unique on our units that cause.the issues.

Indeed we are! I cant remember where abouts in the thread, or.indeed it might have been in a private conversation, a discussion regarding the flow dynamics and pulse tuning of the manifold during its development. Its in this area that the true gains were designed, calculated, constructed and tested aggressively, which in turn allowed the development and benefits of other modifications to work. But dont also forget, dave .is.running a standard engine..as you and I are...its.been meticulously built exacting per factory specifications, but is.still the same engine using the same components as all of.ours..the other modifications were to see how far that engine could go....and the key unit to any mods is.getting air in and as importantly getting the gases out....but getting them out in such a way that they are then used to good.effect as they travel..ie, pulse tuning to allow each cycle to exit without disruption to the next exiting gas cycle...controlling the speeds at which gases are drawn out of.the combustion chamber to gain further effects and benefits.. This sort.of thing. Combined and developed in tune with the engines 'cam overlap' to prevent exhaust gases being drawn back into the.combustion chamber, contaminating the fresh charge...and potentially blowing back into the inlet track in minute amounts...any disruption in flow through the manifold will result in turbo spooling issues and whilst the average driver may not see this, it is apprant on a dyno, or, the gains by designing correctly are apparent... Where the headers meet, for example is a classic area of disruption too..if two branches of gases collide without having been tuned amd controlled they will have negative effects..but the oposite is possible with correct design and application.. This is just one area of the development of that manifold which goes beyond other ones available, with data available to show its use and potentials...whereas there, so far, isnt anything that can support the claims of the allunox unit...

IDepends on the design I guess..and no your right, other ones havent.except for daves unit. Which, in honesty is the only other one worth looking at. That has been massively developed on the dyno with real results, which hqve been shown in depth on the forum here in the 412 thread...and thats why im keen to see the data for this one too as it appears to have a good review by mark..but the hard data is the decider. Now whichever I go for, iwill put on the dyno at Northampton. Ive used this established dyno to show the realistic results of the commonly performed upgrades most of us do to the Esprit inanother thread, and as such ill be able to provide before and after results...but obviously that wont be just yet..so when this happens, im sure itl.provide more interesting debate..

So then its not a.tested and tuned item with proper data to show.exactly what effect it has on the engine dynamics...whilst I wouldnt doubt the manufacturers experience with other applications...i would have a few questions though, especially if I was parting with the best part or a grand...which is.what those interested in doing are looking at. How do the gasses arive at the turbo in a more.synchronized manner? How is this known to happen and in what manner is it happening... In what way has the header been optimized.for.gas flow? How.again can this be shown? Because the exhaust sounds like it is, im afraid, well.. In terms of potential.power increases, these can only be shown with dyno testings before and after fitment. Torque would be more 'feelable' by driving.. The driving differences you describe, are what were all looking for...so I wouldnt doubt that improvements are made..obviously the point is how and to what level etc... The slipper joint manifold I mentioned would certainly not be my first choice for a turbo application like the esprit With its unique demands.... Id very much like to know also how on earth this manifold is good for 400 to 700bhp...based upon what data? What tests? Or is it a case or 'oh its built to that'... Which ive heard somewhere before on another unsubstantiated product... To develope something for the Esprit turbo, based upon say a 700bhp cosworth engine design, and say yeah it works on that itll be good for this...would be laughable (not that im saying thats the case, just an example).... So without proper develpment data, its a figure plucked out of the air I guess. The only reason im being picky, is because like others, if im parting with a chunk of hard earned cash I want to make sure its on the best product available...proven. No matter where it comes from. Thats all..

Chris will have his yellow v8 n my yellow s4....up yellow power!