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[alias23]

@GFWilliams correct our wings need to be raised higher about another inch I reckon - Winter to do for me

[Edinburgh 111s]

6 hours ago, GFWilliams said:

Hard to say on the road as you need to be going above a certain speed.  I think my wing is a little too low, so will be raising it a bit at some stage.  My plans for new mounts fell through unfortunately so I think I'll end up just doing spacers.

When I next do a trackday, I intend to bring the stock wing and do back to back laps and see how the times compare to see if it actually works.

Would be really interesting to see your feedback on that as I am keen, but only if there is a tangible difference. As you say, will be mainly noticeable on track 

[NW76]

You have to learn and adapt to it and its almost worthless w/o proper suspension etc but imho the right aero setup in Spa is 2-3s ... 

[Win911]

[k20Rob]

Finally I can join the club 😎

380 Cup, 430 Cup and DJ engineering wing all in one photo!

[GFWilliams]

380 Cup end plates are the best!

[pete757]

I would doubt that just adding wing would add any downforce that was really discernible. Even the best Lotus aero, lets use the Evora 430 here, 'only' produces 250kg at a Vmax of 190 mph. So that is 'only' about 64kg during a track day 90 mph corner... less than having a few slabs of beer in the boot!

Of course, the Evora GT430 and others do have other aero aids to manage and increase downforce... Lotus say in the GT430 brochure that it makes 64kgs of downforce at 90mph. But even then it's not a lot of extra weight over the rear wheels to increase the grip.

But any downforce is better than rear 'lift'! The original Audi TT is a great example of that!

I do think however that the best benefit of wings is they look bloody cool! 😎 👍

[chumaxa]

Specially when not chassis mounted right ? But it is more about the look, the Exige just screams for a proper wing .. 

[W31SSN]

100% makes a difference, did back to back laps at Spa in a friends stock 350 without wing vs. Mine with, and there is a big difference. (Same Nitron 3 way and ZZR tyres on both).

Where the rear starts to squirm (especially through Pouhon and Blanchimont) you can feel the rear squat and press the tyres into the road. 

[Arun_D]

I agree with Nathan above. My CupR wing of course is chassis mounted so any available downforce should be being utilised effectively, and it is noticeable though the faster corners compared to when I had the standard spoiler.

[550superfast]

Somebody please tell me the issue number of the Evo mag where they tested corner speed etc of a Cup R with and without wing, splitter etc.

[alias23]

Haha rear wings don’t work... for sure some are more effective than others... but the rear hatch wings are more than just for looks... they work!

[GFWilliams]

18 hours ago, pete757 said:

I would doubt that just adding wing would add any downforce that was really discernible. Even the best Lotus aero, lets use the Evora 430 here, 'only' produces 250kg at a Vmax of 190 mph. So that is 'only' about 64kg during a track day 90 mph corner... less than having a few slabs of beer in the boot!

Of course, the Evora GT430 and others do have other aero aids to manage and increase downforce... Lotus say in the GT430 brochure that it makes 64kgs of downforce at 90mph. But even then it's not a lot of extra weight over the rear wheels to increase the grip.

But any downforce is better than rear 'lift'! The original Audi TT is a great example of that!

I do think however that the best benefit of wings is they look bloody cool! 😎 👍

I plan on doing a few laps at Silverstone with and without my big wing to see if there is any difference in lap time...

[pete757]

Given Silverstone has a number of long straights, I would wager that your lap time there will be slower with all the added drag from your big wing... 😉

[ArthouseCompany]

I'm thinking about a big wing and asked Eltech for a price for a straight wing with 380cup endings and mounting. They offer this wing for 1.450 euros, but this price is without VAT, endings and mountings (!)

so in the end it is more expensive than a street legal and tested Komotec wing 🤔

[alias23]

Personally id suggest you go KT. Its excellent quality, the mounts are the best, and you'll also get it delivered vs waiting months...

[Mattmahope]

Is this a new wing from Reverie?  Curved wing with curved end plates.  Looks pretty nice to me!

https://www.reverie.ltd.uk/product_detail.php?search=v6&part_code=R01SB0494

[ArthouseCompany]

What's the size of all these wings???

Eltech? Cup380 ? Cup 430 ?

Komotech is presumably 1.350 cm ?

Eltech offered me a 1450x280 wing that's probably way to large for my taste.

I Iike the straight Cup380 wing with it's curved endings most: 

https://www.caricos.com/cars/l/lotus/2017_lotus_exige_cup_380/images/5.html

and only Eltech offers something similar. 

Edited May 3, 2019 by ArthouseCompany

[ArthouseCompany]

okay, so I just ordered a Eltech carbon wing 1400mm with the new 380styled endings and silver/black V6 logo mountings. Pictures follow in some weeks 😣😣

Edited May 7, 2019 by ArthouseCompany

[Matteo]

Ciao

This is the Full Eltech carbon Parts On V6 By Eltech, Exterior and Interior!

Pictures Album for Parts (SPlitter-Side Skirts-Rear Diffuser-Rear Canards-Internal Parts)

Rear Bonnet

Big Wing 2019

Front Access Cup

Interior Parts

Seats UN ECE R17 Homologation

Louver

 

 

[ArthouseCompany]

I'm now wainting since more than 9 weeks for my eltec wing. I made a deposite of about half the price on May 06.

First Eltech told me the wing is ready now and sent on Friday, 06. of July. That wasn't true, because I asked for a tracking number and Eltec send me a photo of a DHL sticker with a tracking number from 09. of July.

Since then,  one week now,  the DHL tracking website says the package is still in Milano/Italy. I phoned DHL today and they say they don't "physically" have the package, it isn't sent.

Eltech promissed me every day sending it and now they want the rest of the money.

So, is this common ? Did you all pay the full price before getting any product and would you do that in this case now ? Is it really a trusted company ? I'm not sure anymore.....

Edited July 16, 2019 by ArthouseCompany

[BatMobile]

It’s such a shame, your situation seems to be common. 

If matteo hired a secretary to handle shipping/admin etc it would be so beneficial.

i know so many ppl who want carbon but won’t buy because of this.

its a market where any firm doing good carbon at a sensible price, delivered relatively quickly with good communication could literally clean up.

[alias23]

@ArthouseCompany probably too late but @mcx has his DJ wing for sale I believe.

[mcx]

Yes I still have it.. I’ll put up some details when I get some time..

[ArthouseCompany]

I just paid the balance so hopefully it will find it's way from Milano to me now.  I thought I could pay the balance when the wing is finally here. And i have to mention that an English conversion between Germans and Italians can be misleading 😙

One of the reasons for the long waiting is that i've ordered the wing with the new curved endings like the 380cup wing. But to look more like the cup wing Eltech mounted the endings backwards for me and made some special stickers for the endings.