100th_Idiot

Just been inadvertently sat on and subsumed.

yes. Agree on the metrics and that is a good thing. So slowly open up and monitor admissions and deaths. Use targeted track and trace. This is still the failing we have. If you look at Taiwan and South Korea they had outbreaks but reacted very fast with neighbourhood lockdowns for a few days. This few days bought time for mass testing and tracking so infected could be isolated then the rest of the neighbourhood could get back to work. All we can do is shut greater Manchester.

Yes hindsight is great and when lockdown was implemented all we really knew was Wuhan, Italy and Spain where health services were overwhelmed. we have to disagree on the ego thing. I don't think you can prevent outbreaks of this bastard. All you can do is contain. And the only way to that without a national lockdown is with regional control with test track and trace.

Like the USA and Brazil. Let's follow them. We can all be selective with stats. The real bollocks was successive governments not doing planning for a pandemic in contradiction to the initial claims from the government that we have been planning for this for years. Nobody learned the lessons from Taiwan, South Korea or Japan. They all had outbreaks but had rapidly put in place local lock down with effective tracing. Hard learned lessons from SARS. Even Hollywood knows that to contain an aggressive virus you need to trace an impose local restrictions. Instead we would implement a "world beating" system which we are about to scrap instead of looking at what successful countries did. With more prep and less ego we might not have needed a national lockdown. That is not where we were and we still do not have an effective track and trace system.

I guess I should have put a question mark on my first response although i did think it was clear enough.

So if all it did was put thousands out of business it did nothing to slow the spread of COVID.

So the exponential case growth in London would have just stopped as per the Trumpian model of the World

Possibly if lockdown had not been implemented.

With his nose buried in the largest trough?

They will melt in the heat of debate.

That's a bit of a harsh name to call Sparky.

You have to wonder what idiots came up with the methodology when it was clearly more "accurate" in Scotlland and NI.

Just because it's eating out doesn't mean it's unhealthy. It's your choice what you eat. And on SuVs they are not banning them. There's a proposal to ban advertising which is what they did with smoking and that did almost nothing to reduce peoples choice and cigarette sales. Not until smoking in indoor public places and the emergence of vape as an alternative did smoking become more socially unacceptable. Maybe they will have to ban SuVs. Or if you take the smoking approach tax cars by weight and ban SuVs from within half a mile of a school.

Yes. I was there. 😜

A peculiarly UK misconception. Sufficient ice cools the gin well enough that the ice doesn't melt thereby not diluting the gin. Belt and braces for me. More ice and more gin. It's the only way to be certain

Three large cubes minimum. 4 if it's hot.

He was also called Strimmer due to his footballing style.

@pete I think his test was inconclusive so he is isolating and will probably be tested again.

We called a colleague Panda ever since a party where he had relations with the hosts sister in law in the conservatory and left without saying goodbye. He hated it.

Might have worked if we had the ability to test in volume anywhere in the country early enough and the capability to trace contacts. This is what South Korea did so they didn't need a national lockdown. They learned from SARS. We had neither in place and barely have it now. There was no real choice but lockdown at the time.

Russians Salisbury 😛 😛😛😛

According to the nice Mr Corbyn Yorkshire is full of thieves because all proper tea is theft. Calling turnip swede - mashed, bashed, mashit or otherwise.

You've got some thin legs to fit in that posing pouch.

Just sublime.

What if you get your shopping delivered 😝