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The Type 133 looks more than 5 meters long on the spy shots. And the focus seems to lay on the passenger space in the back. I would favor a car length of 4,8 to 5 meters that sits lower than the spyshots suggests. For the meantime I bought a tesla and now I will wait, till the perfect electric grand tourer will be released.

New pictures: https://www.arenaev.com/lotus_envya_spotted_once_again_this_time_with_sideview_cameras-news-1338.php

That would be a very interesting car for me. So I hope there will be news soon

What do you think how long is the type 133? It looks like 5 Meters, but the front of the car seems to be shorter than NIO ET7 or Tesla Model S.

I think the front STARTS very low. That should be good for air resistance. You can also make out the same DLR-lights as the Eletre has. But it seems the cover has a hole just underneath them. So there should be the second pair of DLR-lights from the prototype picture. You can also see the LIDAR sensor on top. Hopefully it can be retracted. I'm especially curious about the back of the car. There is a render of a magazine that just took the behind of the eletre and shrunk it. The proportions looked terrible. So the designers hopefully came up with something beautiful.

First spyshots of Type 133: https://www.drive.com.au/news/2023-lotus-envya-type-133-spied/

I think they are only testing. The Lotus research center in near the Nürburgring.

The Eletre has been spotted at the Nürburgring. Just crazy how he made a burnout while driving. You can see it right at the start of the video. This car looks quick. Not sure if it is the 900 hp version though. It also looked like this car doesn't have rear wheel steering.

Lotus is killing me. I want more infos about the Type 133. A teaser, anything. I am already imagining myself on the Autobahn in one, while I am driving in my Golf...

Found it: https://cnevpost.com/2022/06/24/lotus-first-ev-model-eletre-to-be-powered-by-catls-qilin-battery/

I think I read somewhere that Lotus uses this new CATL battery tech. It is also interesting as CATL has this battery swap technology called Chocobo or something like that.

In all the Eletre youtube videos, they say that there will be a head-up display. Does anyone know, if this will also be able to navigate with an augmented reality function? Like the VW ID models or the EQS?

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/2023-lotus-type-133-be-firms-most-luxurious-model-yet

It's not that they are in the same market. It's that they target a similar audience, when they both gun for the Porsche Taycan. Lotus could target the Taycan and Polestar the Mercedes EQS/EQE, BMW i7 but they are not. Every week I drive through Ingolstadt, but in my whole life, I have only seen two E-Tron GT's on the road. I see a lot more Taycans. And the Porsche is more expensive. For me, it seems the VW Group should be bothered

Luckily, these early renders never look anythink like the finished products. I think this car looks awefull. Hopefully, the front will look sleaker. I don't like the double headlights. The ones of the Eletre look better. If I could wish for one thing, it would be a backside like one of those Aston Martin Zagatos. Something special, not just your typical Taycan, E-tron GT, Model S style. The Polestar 5 is a good example. It's something new and stands out from the mass of sport coupés. Oh and it should have a low drag coefficiant. But most of all, I hope it is not as long as the Eletre. 5 Meters is the absolute maximum for me and the parking garage at my job . But probably none of this wishes will come true, as the car will be made with chinese customers in mind.

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/new-2024-polestar-5-final-design-uk-developed-ev-revealed The Polestar 5 should play in the same league as the Lotus type 133. The Power is the same or even more. The price is the same or even more. They even aim for the Taycan, as does the Lotus. Strange for Geely to gun for Porsche with two brands.

The drag coefficient is kind of disapointing. The BMW iX is 0,25 cd. So it is worse even with all the holes in the car.

Does anyone know the Drag Coefficient of the Eletre already? Lotus talks a lot about the aerodynamic and make a lot of holes into the car. I wonder, what that achieves. The BMW iX for example, has a drag coefficient of 0.25.

An aerodynamic car needs less battery and is therefore lighter. Also you can do without all the small electric motors like someone said before. I think the fabric they use is lighter as leather. So this is the way they should go about other things.

I think Lotus could make a SUV that is lightweight and still modern or even luxurious. With the right materials and the right construction methods.

The more I think about the Eletre, the less I'm interested. With a price around 100.000 pounds, it is way out of my range. Visually, it is too aggressive for me. The holes for the aerodynamics sound nice, but it also takes away space. The frunk could be bigger, without the airtunnels in the front. I also think, Lotus doesn't translate their lightness manta very well. Why would they install a central screen that tilts upwards? Who needs that? Why would they implement two charging ports on both sides? Why design a car for 23 inch wheels? The new Polestar 5 seems much more designed with "less is more" in mind. My hopes are on the type 133 now.

Battery swapping is not about recharge time. It's about not caring about battery degredation. It's about getting the newest batterie-tech, even if you have an old car. Also about changing between small batteries for your daily commutes and big ones for roadtrips.

It's the same for me. The Eletre is not a car for me. But the type 133 could be. So I'm very intrigued how the car will look like and what it will be capable of. Although, I more and more become a fan of battery swapping. CATL announced all the cars with their battery, will be able to swap them, when CATL builds battery swap stations. Do we know already which batteries the lifestyle cars, like Eletre, type 133 will have?

Trust me. Those "leaks" are intentional. Haven't you asked yourself, why new cars are always leaked just one day prior to the premier? The PR department does it intentionaly to hype everyone up. Such a leak gets a lot of media coverage.

That is a big car for sure. Too big for me personally. But I still hope for its success.