Komo-Tec Exige S EX460

[NW76]

The RS was very difficult to get thats why I went for it... the allocation for most dealerships for 2018 (and the car will only be built in 2018) was only a little higher than what they got in GT2 RS ... (5 vs 6 e.g. in one case for example...) 

You never know if there will be more later on in the year but its worth it ;-) ... might be a keeper as well if it is the last N/A RS ... 

[alias23]

13 hours ago, NW76 said:

Jokke: believe it or not ... just got confirmation for a 991.2 GT3 RS that I pre ordered some time ago ... will also keep my Exige, no question. The RS will be driven in parallel but probably not much on track ... the Exige is my track toy and its there to stay ?

You are very very lucky... in the UK you have to pretty much sell your soul and its likely you still won't get an allocation from Porsche

[NW76]

22 minutes ago, alias23 said:

You are very very lucky... in the UK you have to pretty much sell your soul and its likely you still won't get an allocation from Porsche

Its the same here ... my soul is sold now and more ... 

[550superfast]

25 minutes ago, NW76 said:

Its the same here ... my soul is sold now and more ... 

and about £100K richer....

[geartox]

do we already know if the 991.2 GT3 RS will propose a manual gearbox ? We should see that during the next Geneva motor show. 

[NW76]

98% no manual ... just PDK but will have to wait for Geneva the dealers do not even know Spec, pricing etc  ... 

[NW76]

On 26.1.2018 at 11:34, 550superfast said:

and about £100K richer....

If I would flip it right away, yes, maybe, the problem is in that case, that I tend to keep cars ... 

[Win911]

On 26.1.2018 at 08:33, NW76 said:

The RS was very difficult to get thats why I went for it... the allocation for most dealerships for 2018 (and the car will only be built in 2018) was only a little higher than what they got in GT2 RS ... (5 vs 6 e.g. in one case for example...) 

You never know if there will be more later on in the year but its worth it ;-) ... might be a keeper as well if it is the last N/A RS ... 

Congrats Norbert... Nice Car ?

[NW76]

54 minutes ago, Win911 said:

Congrats Norbert... Nice Car ?

Thanks @Win911 might get me to the point to go even more „hardcore“ on the Exige as there will be less street driving with it ... we will see ... 

[geartox]

 

 

 

@Jokke Vlo : feedback ?

 

[NW76]

Interesting ... looks like laptimes are pretty close ... but certaily more to come in the GT3 ... my guess would be its a couple if seconds faster than the EX460 due to the pdk ... 

[Jokke Vlo]

I am not able to explain this by typing on my smartphone.

I am racing at Spa this weekend and will come back later this week with my opinion. 

 

 

[Mark030358]

@Jokke Vlo 

Hi Jokke, how is the upgrade in the 380 progressing? Have KT ironed out the bugs yet?

thanks

Mark

[geartox]

I got the opportunity yesterday to compare my 350 to an EX460 at Magny Cours. It's purely subjective. Below 4000rpm no real difference but above 4000rpm it's clearly not the same car. On this track, the difference is crazy after Estoril and the 900 meters straight line. When you are above  150- 160km/h the EX460 is much more quick. At the end of the straight line the gain is easily 30km/h.

I got the opportunity also to compare the stock suspension against the nitron 3 way. Huge difference. Stock suspension is not enough for track usage.

Last point, I see that the EX460 can follow the 3eleven. But I don't know the level of both drivers.

 

 

[GFWilliams]

Interesting point about the revs, in my car the torque at any revs is a really noticeable gain from the standard car.  In fact so much so that I can often be a gear higher now compared to a stock car.

[Jokke Vlo]

On 31-3-2018 at 14:56, geartox said:

 

 

 

@Jokke Vlo : feedback ?

 

Ok, here we go. Still too short because of time....

 

Lotus

+ more intense

+ more feedback

+ manual gearbox

+ running cost

- geo

- chassis compared to GT3

 

Porsche 

+ "the better car", chassis

+ unbelievable good grip

+ motor

+ pdk (yes this is opposite of the + manual for the Lotus) as FOR ME, the GT3 is sooo good, that to really enjoy this piece of machinery ON TRACK, the PDK gives an extra dimension (where the manual gearbox gives this extra dimension rather on road).

- running cost

- weight

 

 

Lap after lap the GT3 is more stable, and will be the faster/better car (this was my first 30 minutes with it on track, so I am pretty sure laptime will be better in future). 

Driving the GT3 means you drive by gas and brake, not with the steering wheel and you enjoy the machinery under you wich you have to drive with a lot of feel. It is sooooooooo damn good !

But when switching 1 to 1  with the Exige it feels (really) like a big car, a saloon car even. 

 

The Lotus gives a smile too...... because it is intense, you have to work, the car is "dancing" in many corners..... you feel the less good front, you feel you have no LSD etc....... but the lightness, is such a better feeling as the Porsche. It feels much more race car.

 

Which one do I prefer? The GT3 has a slight advantage because of the respect for the car, the synergy you have with it and the more stable laptimes you can drive with it.

 

So my honest impression at the moment. 

 

Picture of the weekend  (car with Dolomite and Scott logo). I drove togehter with Waky another Lotusforum member. Waky took the start and is in front here. 

 

Edited April 4, 2018 by Jokke Vlo

[Hangar 111]

5 hours ago, GFWilliams said:

Interesting point about the revs, in my car the torque at any revs is a really noticeable gain from the standard car.

I would agree with this - I've probably driven more different (Lotus) cars than most, though generally for short distances, and as I always try to explain it to customers, the EX460 just puts back you in the seat rolling on the throttle at any engine speed in any gear.  Plus it keeps going at the top end too!

We will soon have our own EX460 (plus JRZ, plus Reverie) demo car to be able to show people how it really feels!

I should also add that I drove an EX410 a couple of weeks ago, and that reminded me how much go they have, really quick car. And we have an EX390 here (with 46k miles on it, that drives better than some of the garage queens I've driven) which is very very rapid on A and B-roads... so don't dismiss the non-cc upgrades, particularly for a road-biased car, and get some miles on them!

Dave

Edited April 4, 2018 by Hangar 111

[Hangar 111]

On 01/04/2018 at 07:08, Mark030358 said:

Hi Jokke, how is the upgrade in the 380 progressing? Have KT ironed out the bugs yet?

thanks

Mark

Hi Mark.

I have checked with KT and am advised it is all sorted and working well now.

Dave

[Mark030358]

@Hangar 111 

Thanks for the update, appreciated

Mark

[geartox]

next step is to see in live the EX500 

[NW76]

@Jokke Vlo thanks for the feedback. You are pretty spot on. So that means you are keeping both? Or are you planning to sell the Lotus?

 

@geartox no real need for a EX500 ... the EX460 iähas more than enough power and even more just brings more trouble and is not going to really make you faster. @Jokke Vlo wrote above what some of the remaining areas / challenges are with an EX460 with regards to laptime ... I would always fix those first ... 

[Jokke Vlo]

14 hours ago, geartox said:

next step is to see in live the EX500 

I don't see any advantage in doing that....... much more things to work on. 

[550superfast]

The TVS1900 should make more torque and run more efficiently, and can make more power. The EX460 is called a 460, but makes a claimed 455hp or 449bhp.

[Jokke Vlo]

I have 453, there are other things then a 500 which makes my car go faster on track. Sure about that. 

Edited April 5, 2018 by Jokke Vlo

[NW76]

I have 458hp ... anyway I fully agree. The EX500 is far off my list on what to do... there are many other things...