Evora Sport 410

[JayEmm]

I can only speak for Komo-Tec but the 400/410 go to 430 with a remap, the 460 kit involves hardware changes, although nowhere near as dramatic as achieving the same power in an Exige.

[The Pits]

Someone I know sent his 410bhp 311 for a remap and it came back with over 470bhp. There was no mention of any hardware changes.

[JayEmm]

Interesting. Komo-Tec change the air box, manifolds and cat with their 460 package. 

[The Pits]

I think that's what they call up-selling! Any idea how much the 430 remap is?

[JayEmm]

Was about £800 last time I checked.

I am curious what Lotus do to the engine for the "race" 460, I suspect it may just be a remap too, although don't they have a serious air filter on that too?

The million dollar question always seems to be the gearbox's ability to take the power.

[The Pits]

That's pretty cheeky for a remap. It's just a one-size fits all chip too. There must be someone who could do a bespoke remap it on a rolling road for that I'd have thought. It would certainly benefit from that if going for a different manifold and cat. The hard part is finding someone with any expertise with the supercharged Toyota V6s.

[auRouge]

Risky business on a 90k car!! 

Does Lotus still honour a warranty after this upgrade? 

I've seen the 430Komotec work well on a standard an V6 Exige S... owner didn't have any problems as far as I'm aware.

[The Pits]

No way, the warranty will be toast. Equally though has anyone had any problems with either engine or gearbox after uprating? I haven't heard of any,

[JayEmm]

I suspect 430 is going to be fairly safe. Lotus are happy to sell the car with a warranty at 410 - you're talking a 5% HP increase to 430.

I suspect Komo-Tec charge what they do because they're relatively known in a very small and underserved market, and they probably don't sell too many to recoup their own R&D costs.

I am very tempted to get a proper bespoke map created like Jonny suggests, although I need to make sure I don't need my warranty anymore first!

[auRouge]

Been toying around with the idea of a 430bhp upgrade on an S1 S SR as a daily. Only thing stopping me is the 400 getting closer to my budget and I'm in no rush...

Id much rather own a 400 and slap a set of MPSC2's on it, job done! 

An extra 30 BHP after the tyre upgrade isn't enough difference imo, 60BHP... now we're talking!!

But can that transmission really handle it regularly? 

 

[trcm]

I too thought of buying an S1 with the EV430 kit, but with no LSD (like the 400) I heard it broke traction rather a lot.

Im holding out for the SSC 1900 kit and will possibly fit the LSD and flywheel from the 400 at that point...

[chylld]

15 hours ago, auRouge said:

Id much rather own a 400 and slap a set of MPSC2's on it, job done!

A 400 with R-specs and some more front negative camber is quite potent on track, but believe me, you'll still want for more power. MUCH more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHAe1QzREmk

 

[auRouge]

Haha.. not a lot can keep up with a 911 Turbo.. 

Evora driver was having more fun?

[Trevsked]

First time I've heard an auto on track. Gearbox seemed to cope very well and the shorter gearing was nice. No signs of trouble without the LSD either bet then there were no slow corners.

 

Trevor.

[French Frie]

@Trevsked: IIRC, gear ratios on auto gearbox are about the same (vs CR Evora Box) for the 4 first gears, then 5 & 6 are longer  ...

[TheKevlarKid]

I was chasing a turbo round spa in the GTE last year, I was expecting it to pull away on the kemmel straight but no, kept with him all the way... bet he didn't like that!

[Trevsked]

Im not sure what is different whether it be the ratios or the final drive but either way I believe the about is storter.

Gav, that would have been rewarding I'm sure.

 

Trevor.

[French Frie]

On 07/07/2017 at 08:55, French Frie said:

@Trevsked: IIRC, gear ratios on auto gearbox are about the same (vs CR Evora Box) for the 4 first gears, then 5 & 6 are longer  ...

here are the gearbox ratios for Evora, taken from the playground Wiki. As I said, the 4 first gears are pretty the same, whereas 5th and 6th are (really) longer ...

PS: not talking about standard gearbox, as it was never fitted (hopefully !) to the 400 ...

 

Edited July 10, 2017 by French Frie

[chylld]

The service notes for the Evora 400 are different from the IPS specs in the playground Wiki, especially the final drive:

With the standard rear 400 tyres, this yields 7000rpm top speeds of the following:

mph:            46            80            107            151            207            248
kph:            74            128            171            243            334            399

Based on my car I think this is pretty accurate. In the video above I'm short-shifting a tiny bit shy of the 7000rpm redline, as the auto box won't upshift if you hit the rev limiter.

[French Frie]

thanks for those infos  ! but in fact, gear ratios are the very same  ... only the final drive is different, and is even longer than on Evora S1   ! so, @Trevsked's feeling is not accurate ... But I can say for sure that faster shifting (even on previous Evora/exiges) helps this impression ! and after driving the manual Exige (EX430) of a friend this week-end, I wouldn't change my IPS for a manual if I had to ...

[chylld]

If the car seemed like it was shorter geared, then I will take that as a compliment

The faster shifting is great especially in a straight line. Mid corner though I have to lift slightly before upshifting as the jolt will unsettle the car if you're right on the limit. The only auto gearbox I've driven that was significantly better is the Porsche PDK.

[Evora410]

Excellent Review Jonny

Im from Switzerland and have my Evora 410 now for 3 Months. I had everything in Cars till now (Corvette C7, Corvette Z06, BMW M3/M3, Nissan GT-Rt's, 991.1 CS, Caymang GTS, F-Type R, Evora 400.) an i can say nothing handles like the 410 an give me that Smile when im Driving it sporty or with normal Speed. My Car has no Aircon and no Stereo an im Happy with it so. I changed my Tires to 245/295 Cup2 N0 and have done a new Alignement yesterday. The Car had to much Toe in in the Rear (+13° left nad right). I have now Camber Front: -1,5° / Toe: 0° and Camber Rear: -2° / Toe: +5". On the Passenger Site it was possible to go to -2° Camber but on the Driver Site -1,5° was the Limit. I can say now with my new Setup the Car transform to a new Level, its absolutely Incredible how it Turns in and the Steering is now so laser Sharp an the Grip is fantastic!

Best Regards from Switzerland
Sandro 

[French Frie]

welcome Sandro, and it's great to read that ! I assume you mean +5mm for rear toe in (and not 13° before  ) ?

 

[Evora410]

yes 13° its wrong it was 13" before

[Snoopy1969]

@Evora410 congrats and good to hear that you are happy!

Does your car has the Sound deadening? If not, do you have an idea if it is much louder than a 400 within the cabin?