Exige 380 vs Exige 360 Cup

[R56Turbo]

Or just wait for one with 740 miles to pop up at £70k ? http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/lotus/exige-s3/lotus-exige-sport-380/6678942

[Bravo73]

Isn't that one of the press cars?

[550superfast]

yes, it is

[Jamie-BellandColvill]

20 minutes ago, Bravo73 said:

Isn't that one of the press cars?

Yes it is, we have the other one, the Metallic Blue PR car

[R56Turbo]

All three press cars are stunning! I know this one doesn't have titanium exhaust however I was still amazed at the price because it does have the carbon stuff. If this is normal depreciation for press cars I can understand and there will be three very happy owners. I would lean towards the 380 at these prices although when spec'd up how I like it makes it £85k-£90k and that makes the 360 cup look a seriously good deal.

[MesTCS]

19 hours ago, Jamie-BellandColvill said:

Will do my best to hide it away for you Mes, I have never been great at selling the cars I like as I always want to keep them so you might be in with a chance Yes the exhaust will give 400 and Sport 380 owners the opportunity to enjoy the cars as intended, which is of course on a track! Our design with offer twin straight pipes as your rightly guess. We will hopefully have some pictures in the next couple of weeks to show. The Lotus Titanium exhaust will be different to our system, we have decided to try and make it quieter than the standard exhaust, their system actually makes it louder! I bet the Lotus system will sound incredible but unfortunately you will not be able to go on track with it.

Thanks for the info Jamie. It sounds fantastic. And I'm sure it will sound erm... fantastic!

[The Pits]

Having just driven the Sport 380 today (thanks again Jamie) back to back with the V6 Cup, I stand by my earlier statement.

Mainly road use - Sport 380.

Mainly track use - 360 Cup.

 

[NW76]

1 hour ago, The Pits said:

Mainly road use - Sport 380.

Mainly track use - 360 Cup.

 

So, it was a disappointing from a racers perspective?!? 

[The Pits]

No I couldn't say that, it was purely a road drive on greasy roads in January. I'm sure it will be amazing on track if you can find one that will let you run that loud!

Quieter exhaust is a big advantage for the 360 Cup if you want to do a lot of trackdays. Sport 380 will be noisy days only.

[geartox]

Do you think that a dealer can fit the lotus sport exhaust on the 380 or the evora sport 410 ? it could be a solution for trackdays restriction...

[Bravo73]

No, they can't. The two exhaust systems have different diameters. You will have to change everything from the manifolds back. 

[toshers]

...or go custom. Hardly ideal considering what you'll just have shelled out on a new 380 

[geartox]

I was thinking about the 380 or the evora 410 to replace the 350, but considering the noise, it's a problem.

I will discuss with my lotus dealer if he can propose a technical solution.

[M4rk]

16 hours ago, The Pits said:

No I couldn't say that, it was purely a road drive on greasy roads in January. I'm sure it will be amazing on track if you can find one that will let you run that loud!

Quieter exhaust is a big advantage for the 360 Cup if you want to do a lot of trackdays. Sport 380 will be noisy days only.

I'm very much looking forward to reading your write up from your test drive experience, I've found your videos very helpful too.  

This has been an interesting thread.  I love the look of the B&C 360 Cup, the colour is stunning!  I also really like the idea of their exhaust option for the 380 to pass track day requirements; I couldn't buy a 380 knowing that I will struggle to go on track with it.  I've been switching between Elise/Exige but the Exige is much more attractive to me and the model I prefer.  Maybe a 360 Cup now and upgrade in a few years when the new Exige is launched….I can see I am trying to convince myself!

I need to book a day off work for a trip down to B&C for a test drive.

[Bravo73]

15 minutes ago, geartox said:

I was thinking about the 380 or the evora 410 to replace the 350, but considering the noise, it's a problem.

I will discuss with my lotus dealer if he can propose a technical solution.

If you read the earlier posts, B&C are developing a quieter silencer/backbox with Quicksilver which will fit the larger bore systems on the 380 & 400/410. 

[Stubox]

7 minutes ago, M4rk said:

 

I need to book a day off work for a trip down to B&C for a test drive.

Fatal. Looking forward to pictures of your new Exige

[geartox]

44 minutes ago, Bravo73 said:

If you read the earlier posts, B&C are developing a quieter silencer/backbox with Quicksilver which will fit the larger bore systems on the 380 & 400/410. 

Yes I have read it. It's a really interesting system. I will follow this development.

Concerning the "noise" challenge, in France many tracks (whereas they are in middle of nowhere) have to follow more and more restrictive rules regarding noise pollution (many tracks are under threat to close). BUT in the same time, a scooter/motorcycle can run (full throttle) at 2AM in the residential area by disturbing everyone, and no rules in the law to limit that?!?

Lotus should really take care of this "exhaust noise challenge".

 

 

[RedViper]

Update on 2bular website this week saying a system is coming for the 311 but that will fit all latest cars ?

 

 

New "2BULARACE" product line specifically for track/race usage coming - including lightweight Re-Pack race system for the 3-eleven - but can be fitted to any of the V6 installs. The Evora 400 will certainly need this for track! New 4-1 race manifold + SDCP developed for the 250Cup. Pics and info soon.

Edited January 28, 2017 by RedViper

[Jokke Vlo]

luckely I can drive enough DB Free days, curious to know the difference in driving - power ....

[Jokke Vlo]

On 27-1-2017 at 21:12, The Pits said:

No I couldn't say that, it was purely a road drive on greasy roads in January. I'm sure it will be amazing on track if you can find one that will let you run that loud!

Quieter exhaust is a big advantage for the 360 Cup if you want to do a lot of trackdays. Sport 380 will be noisy days only.

[The Pits]

!

Jokke I know you are more eager than most to find out more about the car. I have been editing the video like crazy today, it will be over 20 minutes long. I will do my best but I don't think it will be ready tonight. Audio did not come out well sadly despite buying a lapel mic. It's taking a lot of work to fix it. Nearly there though.

Tomorrow for sure.

Sorry!

 

 

 

 

[The Pits]

Just uploading now. Decided to do a few last minute tweeks!

It will be on my channel in the next hour or so for anyone that's interested.

I'll finish the write-up which will be much more detailed. If Bibs approves it should be up later this week.

[French Frie]

great  ! thanks Jonny ... cant' wait  !

 

[French Frie]

I'm watching this  :

great, but voice is really muted by surround noises ...

[The Pits]

Yes I can only apologize for the audio. For whatever reason it is even worse on Youtube than it was on my computer, especially the parts in the V6 Cup which does have more road noise (and less sound deadening).

Unfortunately you can only work with what you come back home with. Believe it or not I bought a new mic just to improve audio quality. It failed to work directly with the camera, so I plugged it into my iPhone to create a seperate audio track. The results were so poor when I got home I thought for one moment I'd have to do the whole thing all over again. I drove 4 hours in the car and got it covered in grime all at my own expense for this footage so I really didn't want to repeat it if possible. A lot of work with a graphic equalizer has at least got it to the point where my voice can be heard if you turn the volume up. I figured that would be better than subtitles. This isn't a TLF video, only my own personal opinion from my own YT channel, hence why I haven't posted it here myself.

As you can imagine you only get an hour or so with the car, so you have to make the most of what you come home with. Thanks to all those who have watched it. Bear with me, I promise the next one will be better!