Brexit

[Chillidoggy]

8 hours ago, Buddsy said:

I think Boris is more intelligent than some people think too.

Buddsy

 

I suspect it's more like 'How could anyone in his position not be intelligent?"

I'll leave you with this candid photo of our new Foreign Secretary..............................

 

[C8RKH]

Love it. A politician who is not so far up his own arse he can, like most ordinary people do everyday, make a prat of himself whilst having some fun to get his message across. He's hugely patriotic too and unlike many politicos his first response is not too apologise for Britain or being British.

GoBoJo!

I'm totally sick and tired of the insipid, neutered, political muppets that have no imagination whatsoever, that follow the same path through Uni with a bloody PPP whatever degree, never do a real job, then end up representing the people who do.

WtF is that all about?

Tea and revolution. Let's go and conquer the world again. 

[Chillidoggy]

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jul/14/boris-johnson-foreign-secretary-view-from-abroad

 

[Chillidoggy]

Sadly it's not just the Grauniad reporting that, it's all the media outlets, although we should be thankful he's not involved in the Brexit negotiations. I'm sure he's a nice guy, I'd certainly be happy sit sit and have a beer with him, but he's made so many unstatesmanlike gaffes in the past, he's viewed by many powerful figures as a clown.

Still, we will see how he performs. I can't imagine him simply fading away, cos he'll always be newsworthy!

[C8RKH]

Yup. He's a clown. OK. But then all the worlds a stage for him now too and I believe that he will surprise us all with his performance.

At least Boris has the likeable,in my books anyway, attribute of saying what he really thinks.

These many powerful figures who think he is a clown are probably not looking forward to deal with him as I believe he will really put the country first and not just do what they want him to.

[Chillidoggy]

I heard that, too.

So the media has moved from talking it down, and being prophets of doom to not reporting anything that might be a positive step forwards for us.

Typical.

[Iconic Ride]

14 hours ago, C8RKH said:

I think the split on here was around 50:50 remain and leave,

If you guys dump the personal guns you can always come back into our fold.... haha

Perfect. So no matter what I say I'll automatically offend half the membership. Sheeshh!

I'll happily "come back into the fold," but only if I get to dump a crate of Tetley Earl Grey into London harbour to even things up a trifle.

12 hours ago, ian29gte said:

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jul/14/boris-johnson-foreign-secretary-view-from-abroad

 

Ian, that was some link. Wow! It's going to be an interesting year.

[C8RKH]

10 hours ago, Iconic Ride said:

I'll happily "come back into the fold," but only if I get to dump a crate of Tetley Earl Grey into London harbour to even things up a trifle.

Dump as many crates as you like. I hate Earl Grey tea - that bloody fancy perfurmed nonsense - yuck.

Now, if it was Yorkshire Tea you were dumping, we'd be at you with our shotguns!

[C8RKH]

20 hours ago, Buddsy said:

I did hear there are lots of other countries banging on our door wanting to enter free trade deals with us that arent being reported upon from BBC or skynews.

Buddsy 

Yes. One reported this morning was Australia who had banged on Theresa's door and said we'd like to trade! India is keen, as is China, and the US have already found a way for us to get in too. We do't need a trade deal with Europe, we'll just swallow the tariffs they put on us, and levy our own tariffs on their goods coming in. No problem. I can drink Oz or Yankee wine as fast as I can drink European!

I can see the Commonwealth grouping of countries ALL being keen in reciprocal trade deals, that we had to previously drop due to EU rules The longer this all goes on, genuinely the more optimistic I am that the outcome will good. The whole world wants to trade as trade brings wealth and this is no longer the 17th, 18th or even 19th century so non-exploitative trade deals will be easy to setup.

I also hope that with trade, we get immigration from, and migration to, the Commonwealth countries too It's worked for us all before and can work again as rather than coming here to scrounge benefits and have an easy life like some (not all, I know that) from Europe, the migrants who came from the Commonwealth in the 50's and 60's, from the Caribbean, from India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh etc., were proud and came here to work, to build a prosperous life for themselves and their families, and their children where taught the value of education - many of them are now our doctors, dentists, judges, etc.  

Bring it on. Britain is back open for business...

[Barrykearley]

More utter shite from the bbc and the guardian

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36821574

boo hoo big business and developers are suffering - what a shame - who bloody cares frankly. Here comes a rant......

a working man should be able to support a family and buy a house on a modest wage - say a factory worker driving a forklift or a garage mechanic..... Currently probably 99.99% of all property is out of reach of that sort of person. Is that right ?? Really ??? We need to wake up to the fact an enormous market correction is required and we need to build an enormous quantity of housing. The whole setup we have in this country with regards to such things stinks.

I'm no socialist that's for sure - but the present setup is utterly fubar'd

[Barrykearley]

Oh and let's not forget - that same working man currently would be able to rent the very same house he couldn't afford to buy - what utter rollocks

[Barrykearley]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-36803544

and the continual bbc smear campaign continues.....

when will the establishments and the political folks take notice - the great unwashed are utterly p@ssed off with the current status quo

And I'm absolutely loving the completely disconnected Labour Party ripping each other to shreds - long live Jezza

[Iconic Ride]

[jonwat]

11 hours ago, Barrykearley said:

And I'm absolutely loving the completely disconnected Labour Party ripping each other to shreds - long live Jezza

Loving reading The Gurniad, tearing it's heart out. 

This could be the end of Labour as we know, if they're not careful UKIP will become the working man's party. 

[C8RKH]

I think the Labour Padty will survive, after all it did OK after the gang of 4, 5 whatever split off to form the SDLP was it?

However, it will be interesting to see how its core support changes. New Labour under Blair et al took it more right and upward. As a result they totally lost touch with their core working class supporters, especially in the North.

Corbyn seems to appeal to the trendy lefties, big on social everything and giving other peoples hard earned to those less deserving but needy. These are also not the tradiditional core supporter base. 

So, I can see a hole, it won't be filled by the Liberals, so @jonwatyou may be correct in foretelling a move to UKIP. Though they do need to broaden their appeal through a softening and more expansive agenda. Could happen. Especially if the economic signs of Brexit look more positive through further financial and economic turmoil in the EU.

[Barrykearley]

I'm just a working class lad - grew up in a top floor flat on a council estate.

never been given anything on a plate - and don't want it - but I'm really struggling to see a party that really suits my value set

[Chillidoggy]

Council estate flat? Luxury!

We had a one-bedroomed top-floor hovel that backed onto the train station. Think Elwood's bedsit in 'The Blues Brothers' but with less frequent rains, due to British Rail's incompetence, and strikes. Three rooms no bigger than the boot of an Esprit, with the bog on the next floor down, and a bathroom on the floor below that, that we had access to once a week.

You don't know you're born.

[Stubox]

 

[C8RKH]

1 hour ago, ian29gte said:

Council estate flat? Luxury!

We had a one-bedroomed top-floor hovel that backed onto the train station. Think Elwood's bedsit in 'The Blues Brothers' but with less frequent rains, due to British Rail's incompetence, and strikes. Three rooms no bigger than the boot of an Esprit, with the bog on the next floor down, and a bathroom on the floor below that, that we had access to once a week.

You don't know you're born.

You had an inside toilet!

You posh git! No wonder you drive a V8.

[Chillidoggy]

On 18 July 2016 at 21:06, C8RKH said:

You had an inside toilet!

You posh git! No wonder you drive a V8.

A V8? Are you serious? A pauper like me couldn't afford to run a V8! Only the profligate Baby-Boomers and Generation-X rich-kids like Barry and Alan can afford those.

Oh, and the next place we moved to did actually have an outside bog, I'll have you know!

[march]

Luxury - we only had a hole in the ground, in a field where the landlord would come along and nick anything that was not nailed down. If I was lucky I could use a neighbours loo but I had to beat the pig underneath with a stick before using it. You lot just don't know you are born. Bloody Plebs - always moaning!

But then again it was Goa during my 'Grand Tour' .  

[jonwat]

1 hour ago, C8RKH said:

I think the Labour Padty will survive, after all it did OK after the gang of 4, 5 whatever split off to form the SDLP was it?

This is the reverse of that, it'll be 4 or 5 staying with Corbyn while the rest of the PLP split to form their version of the SDLP. 

[pete]

now fed up with so much importance being given to scotland in the media.The threat from spurgeon to blackmail us over article 50 makes my blood boil.Let them have their bloody independence if thats what they want and the EU are welcome them,can`t see them being a net contributor

[Barrykearley]

Scotland ?? What that spare bit of country at the top of ours???? 

Yeah - loads of empty space to fill with eu migrants on an Independant Scotland's benefit system  

just saying

[Iconic Ride]

4 hours ago, pete said:

,..can`t see them being a net contributor

Does this mean the import tax on haggis is headed north?