410 Brake Pad Options

[Bandit]

Hi All,

Anyone have any suggestions for brake pads on Exige 410s?

I’m not really liking the lack of initial bite in the std pads so looking for something a little more aggressive. I’m used to running Pagid RS-14s on all my previous Elises but finding 410 pad options doesn’t seem too straightforward.

Any pointers much appreciated 👍🏻

[nordschleife666]

same shape as other Exige V6

 

[GFWilliams]

As I just put on the other thread
https://www.seriouslylotus.com/braking/brake-pads/performance-friction/performance-friction-front-brake-pads-exige-v6-evora

PF08 have a really good immediate bite. Downsides are more brake dust and a bit of squeaking (not enough to annoy me though).

[Bandit]

So, to be clear, they’re exactly the same pads fitted to all other V6 Exiges even though the larger(?) standard J hook Alcon discs are on the car?

This would make purchasing options easier (as in it simply becomes a choice between maker/compound) as I can’t find any specific 410 fitment mentioned anywhere. @Seriouslylotus any advice on this? 🙂

Cheers for all the advice so far.

37 minutes ago, GFWilliams said:

As I just put on the other thread
https://www.seriouslylotus.com/braking/brake-pads/performance-friction/performance-friction-front-brake-pads-exige-v6-evora

PF08 have a really good immediate bite. Downsides are more brake dust and a bit of squeaking (not enough to annoy me though).

@GFWilliams thanks very much, I can’t see the other thread though, could you post a link? 👍🏻

[GFWilliams]

I believe the 410 doesn’t have larger brake discs. They’re the same diameter, just 2 piece and J hook.  @Seriouslylotus will clarify though I’m sure  

[BlackyF1]

I've fitted Ferrodo DS Uno's.  Seriously impressed, but again like the PF's they are a bit noisy.  But initial bite is epic and serious retardation.

[Tex]

I think if you go away from the standard AP racing pads you will get squealing as the aftermarket pads all appear without a backing plate. No issue for track but on road a pain. 
 

I have just gone back to the AP’s

[Schnitzel]

Same brakes and disc diameter mate. Just bought some RS14’s again for mine.

[nordschleife666]

I have used CL RC5+ in my previous Elise, very good bite and no squeal.

[2GOOD]

16 hours ago, Tex said:

I think if you go away from the standard AP racing pads you will get squealing as the aftermarket pads all appear without a backing plate. No issue for track but on road a pain. 
 

I have just gone back to the AP’s

I thought the standard pads in the cars were Ferodo DS2500 not Ap?

[Seriouslylotus]

2 hours ago, 2GOOD said:

I thought the standard pads in the cars were Ferodo DS2500 not Ap?

They are Ferodo DS25HP ..Supplied in the caliper by AP Racing

[MrD]

PF8 or RC6 is next for me - I can't live with the poor initial bite of the DS2500. Yes more noise and rotor wear but given the annual mileage and limited number of TDs I should be fine.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I've seen 2 different diameters for rotors, 332mm and 343mm. Am i right to think that the contact patch is actually the same? And if so, how can the bigger disc fitted to the OEM bell? 

[Seriouslylotus]

Longer mounting ears on the front discs

Rear 343 discs will take the deeper front pad (Well the alcons do, not sure on others)

[MrD]

Thanks ^^ that makes sense then. I suppose calipers will also need spacers? 

 

[Seriouslylotus]

Yes with the 343 discs the calipers have spacers

[piwo]

Ds2500 is shit. There are dsuno ds1.11 And ds 3.12 much much better

[Kristof Thys]

@piwo better for what? And oh, welcome!

 

 

[piwo]

Better on cold And first braking. with the ds2500, you press the brake pedal with a cold pad and wait 2 seconds for a response. with ds1.11 dsuno ds3.12 this is not there.

[3eighty]

So the options seem to be PFC08, RS14 or CL RC5+ or RC6.

 

Anyone have experience of multiple pads and can give a view?
 

I recently moved to a v6. Previously ran an Elise in which I had CL RC6 - the pads which were absolutely mighty.

The first time I braked after fitment, I felt like I was going to go through the windscreen vs OE disc bite.

Absolutely no fade with the RC6 and you could just take the micky on the brakes on track - obviously given Elise power, you’d need to make up as much as you could by braking harder and later - these seemed perfect.

A bit of noise but not too bad - a light hiss - enough to say racecar but not enough to bother anyone.

Previously had some PFC01 on a v8 M3 and they were like nails on a blackboard when cold!

The RC6 didn’t seem to lose their retardation qualities down to the wear limits.

Highly recommended. No questions what to get next time I needed pads for the Elise.

Am Now looking at pads for the 380 and wondering if to go for the RC6 again or RC5+ for slightly better disc life.

 

 

[GazzyFizzle]

Does the RC5+ make noise like the RC6 though?

[nordschleife666]

I used RC5+ in my last Elise, no noise, just a bit more on brake dust which is normal for performance pads

[3eighty]

Now have RC5+ incoming from Seriously Lotus for the Exige 380. Will report back...

[ExV6]

Already some experiences with the RC5+?

 

[Seriouslylotus]

On 16/07/2020 at 10:20, GFWilliams said:

I believe the 410 doesn’t have larger brake discs. They’re the same diameter, just 2 piece and J hook.  @Seriouslylotus will clarify though I’m sure  

yes George is correct.

410 discs and pads are the same size as V6s , 350 sport, 380 sport etc etc 

J hook discs are APracing not Alcon

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Tex]

Anyone have experience of Endless Pads for the Exige ?

I have used them on other track cars and they are excellent 

https://www.automek.co.uk/collections/lotus-exige-s1-s2/products/endless-mx72-performance-brake-pads-lotus-exige-3-5-410-17mm-thickness-2018-onwards-front-brake-pads-rcp100