Dry Sump Register

[stephenwhyte]

Ha....thanks Lex. It’s nice to see my Wet Sump getting a mention in official Lotus literature.....and again, in a Dry Sump topic😉 

In truth though I’d seen this before👍

[Lex Templar]

@dr_jayhartif the roof stereo was from factory it will say on the certificate like this.

Interesting what Andy said about the final dry sump cars and it basically came down to if you wanted a/c or not.. i wonder if the customers were aware at the time they might get a dry or wet sump.

 

 

[dr_jayhart]

Hi lex it’s not Andy that says ac ment dry sump in early cars because the wet didn’t have it figured yet I thought I read it somewhere. Just was looking for confirmation. J 

[Lex Templar]

14 minutes ago, dr_jayhart said:

Hi lex it’s not Andy that says ac ment dry sump in early cars because the wet didn’t have it figured yet I thought I read it somewhere. Just was looking for confirmation. J 

What a great looking car, I used to chat to Malcolm a lot about it when he had it.

Whoever re-did that interior did an amazing job, the ruching is spot on.

Factory roof stereos meant rear view mirror stock on windscreen so maybe the dealer did it or a previous owner. Is it an RM610?

 

[Lex Templar]

Do you know this one @LOTUSMAN33?

Registration 200 HLA

https://www.carthrottle.com/post/w8kjjjm/

 

[Lex Templar]

Possibly s/n 10311 Geneva Motor Show car. Do we know the origin of the number plate? Switzerland? This is a little book I bought 15 years ago. 

[LOTUSMAN33]

7 hours ago, Lex Templar said:

Do you know this one @LOTUSMAN33?

Registration 200 HLA

https://www.carthrottle.com/post/w8kjjjm/

 

That’s Dans car 👍

Dave  

[Lex Templar]

5 minutes ago, LOTUSMAN33 said:

That’s Dans car 👍

Dave  

Will make a note of other rego. Was it owned by @Bazza 907prior?

[ChrisJ]

8 hours ago, Lex Templar said:

i wonder if the customers were aware at the time they might get a dry or wet sump.

Back in the day I didn't know there was a dry or wet sump engine. It's only by being on here that I have learnt of the differences.

[Dan E]

That is definitely my car now back to the original reg HSC 6X revived by @Bazza 907 

[Bazza 907]

41 minutes ago, Lex Templar said:

Will make a note of other rego. Was it owned by @Bazza 907prior?

Yes it was my car that I had brought back to life. It's now Dan's car but I kept the registration number. 

Pictures were taken by me! 

[dr_jayhart]

Hi Lex, yes the roof stereo is rm610.

Ive just been looking closer at the Dry sump register and my car (Ex MalcomeS) is down as 

11179. The car however is 11279. On the register it says 11279 is in Australia? 

Any thoughts?

Thanks

Jay

 

[Lex Templar]

@dr_jayhartI’ve just checked an early version of the register and it appears an error. Good spot. 

Dave may know if there is another one in Austalia but I’ll fix it up on the register and delete 11179. It makes more sense that yours is later than 11179. @LOTUSMAN33

so yours is A/C, standard radio from factory. (Given your mirror) and am I right is saying half leather from factory?
correct me if I’m wrong..

[Lex Templar]

 Corrected version attached.

Dry Sump Register 2020.pdf

[dr_jayhart]

Hi Lex. 
correct car factory ac, half leather, requested 4 speakers and board in passenger footwell for amplifier. Black carpets. Mirror is mounted on panel which supports the sun visors. Roof stereo fitted but I don’t know when. I guess by dealership? Hence the request for amp board. How many dry dumps come after mine so I can tell Andy Graham? Any with certification? Thanks was worried I have a ringer! J

[LOTUSMAN33]

That was my mistake, they are two separate cars.

Yours is very late, strange Andy has it as a wet sump as know one would go to all that effort changing it over.

Andy’s records have been incorrect a few times I know of, it took me ages to sort the initial build numbers for the M100 Elan’s as development car records are sparse.

He had my JPS number mixed up as well which took some help from Roo to sort.

Dave  

[dr_jayhart]

Let’s hope I can get Andy to accept it. J

[Dan E]

14 hours ago, Dan E said:

That is definitely my car now back to the original reg HSC 6X revived by @Bazza 907 

And I have to confess it has been sitting out in the rain and wind for 3 weeks with the battery disconnected. Reconnected the battery to move it back in the garage thinking this is never going happen. Started first time took it for a drive to warm through and now back in the garage. 
 

left my 2019 Mercedes Vito van for 3 weeks during lockdown and it needed a call out to Merc to come and reset some stuff to get it going. 
 

loads of trouble.......... FFS 

[Lex Templar]

18 hours ago, dr_jayhart said:

Hi Lex. 
correct car factory ac, half leather, requested 4 speakers and board in passenger footwell for amplifier. Black carpets. Mirror is mounted on panel which supports the sun visors. Roof stereo fitted but I don’t know when. I guess by dealership? Hence the request for amp board. How many dry dumps come after mine so I can tell Andy Graham? Any with certification? Thanks was worried I have a ringer! J

The register has 2 listed after yours, well after the air con wet sump cut off point.

Not sure if they have them certified but they do have owners names next to them so you could check in with them.

 

 

[dr_jayhart]

Hi Lex. That’s a good thought. I’ll try to see which they are and see if they get back to me. J

[Lex Templar]

On 01/01/2017 at 08:31, LOTUSMAN33 said:

Sounds about right as Andy Graham said the 1981 cars ran from 10966 to 11185 with 74 dry sump cars, this was domestic and RHD export and included the S3.

I think the Essex run including development and pre production totalled around 48 cars?

The highest Essex car was 10950 I believe.

Not sure how many non Essex 1980 cars were made or 1982 models.

Wurzel has a 1982 black dry sump car doesn't he? Not sure if his is later than yours Tar?

Perhaps an email to Andy Graham could confirm?

Dave  

We have all the domestic 1980 cars (14 non-essex 1980 cars according to my certificate @LOTUSMAN33) Some of the cars with PTS early Jan must still be classified as 1980 cars by Lotus up to chassis 10965.

And we have 51 domestic listed cars from 10966 - 11185 out of 74 cars.

So we are missing just 23 cars from 1981.

48 Essex + 14 non Essex for 1980 + 74 dry sump for 1981 = 136 dry sump cars...

It would be good if @dr_jayhart knew how many 1982 domestic dry sumps were made, then we will have a total, has Andy mentioned a figure?

There are then some export non-essex cars to consider as well of which a lot are on the list.

I'll see if I can get an export dry sump production figure from Andy at some stage.

Attached shows 1980 domestic cars in yellow, 1981 cars in green.

 

Dry Sump Register 2020.pdf

[dr_jayhart]

Nick pope has a black dry sump that is owned by bell and covill stripped awaiting restoration I’ll try and see if I can get the number next time I’m there. It’s on bbs so a later car. J

[Tocus]

The #951 is no longer alone,

now #982 is next to her, (982 is one of the 4 ever build full james bond spec cars ever deliverd by lotus) today there are still 2 on this earth

thats mine and the 953 from alexander! love those early cars!!!!

 

(#951 and #982 are both deliverd by bell and covill)

 

waiting for a Essex!

[stephenwhyte]

That white ones lovely - any inside pics @Tocus? So is this the one that’s been getting the work done at SJ Sportscars.....or is that another one?

[Tocus]

Just now, stephenwhyte said:

That white ones lovely - any inside pics @Tocus? So is this the one that’s been getting the work done at SJ Sportscars.....or is that another one?

no thats 953 thats Alexander his one, this is the other one what is still out there,

it has a red interior, (but its deliverd orginal with brown leather) so i will make it orginal again,