Dry Sump Register

[ChrisJ]

@Lex Templar Is the white one a dry sump as it looks like it has the later front indicators.

[Lex Templar]

1 minute ago, ChrisJ said:

@Lex Templar Is the white one a dry sump as it looks like it has the later front indicators.

no that white one is definitely not, more like an '84. 

I'm just referring to the red car in the pics..

[LOTUSMAN33]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/114453739970

 

I think this may be or have been a dry sump Lex being a June 82 on a W reg JAN680W

I have messaged him to ask.

Dave  

[dr_jayhart]

yeah I thought that too shame there is no picture of the engine bay.

[stephenwhyte]

Pretty sure I remember early photos of a white Dry Sump with a JAN reg number🤔

Interesting that the rear side window has AEL638X etched on it🤔

[LOTUSMAN33]

Maybe private plate, yes we have JAN445W 0939 on the register

Good spot with the etching, it could be an early wet sump 👍🏻
 

Dave  

 

[LOTUSMAN33]

[stephenwhyte]

That’s the one👍

[Lex Templar]

16 minutes ago, LOTUSMAN33 said:

Some pics I took when I saw It in 2010 when I was considering buying it.

HC engine, re-trimmed black.

Still trying to find the new owner here in Australia. 

It sold in 2018 for the equivalent of £15,000 at auction after it wasn’t advertised as anything special. If it still had it’s dry sump lump I would have bought it. Also all the original leather had been replaced and not correctly. It’s a hot looking thing though.

Lex.

[LOTUSMAN33]

Nice Lex, if that ever turns up let me know as I would love to bring that one home 😉

Dave  

[RichardJGC]

If registered 31 Dec 82....that would be a Y plate.....if DVLA have got the correct date.

[LOTUSMAN33]

The vehicle check online shows it registered June 82 so should be an X plate , the MOT check often shows the wrong registration info.

Dave  

[Lex Templar]

1 minute ago, LOTUSMAN33 said:

Nice Lex, if that ever turns up let me know as I would love to bring that one home 😉

Dave  

I will see if I can find it. I think you guys should get one back over there, you have lost all the good ones. If properly restored it would be a very special car but it’s a really good runner in the meantime.

I was lucky enough to drive it - my first Esprit drive. 
 

I drove one of the 3 Australian delivered Sport 300 here about 6 months later It was for sale for $55,000 AU - I didn’t quite appreciate what it was in 2010 unfortunately as I had eyes only for a Bond car.

[LOTUSMAN33]

17 minutes ago, Lex Templar said:

I will see if I can find it. I think you guys should get one back over there, you have lost all the good ones. 

Yours hasn’t left yet Lex... 🤭 😈😂

Dave 😉

[Bazza 907]

2 hours ago, LOTUSMAN33 said:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/114453739970

 

I think this may be or have been a dry sump Lex being a June 82 on a W reg JAN680W

I have messaged him to ask.

Dave  

That's an odd advert. If I understand it correctly, it's not for sale for £20k but Mr Pallet Racking is asking if anybody will restore it for him for £20k.

[Lex Templar]

yes indeed @Bazza 907 I had to re-read that myself.

Perhaps he could get some mechanicals done for that price.

@LOTUSMAN33 I dare say it wont be leaving for a while! 

I don't think any sized cheque will stop it leaving eventually though..

I'm sure @Bazza 907understands. 😉

[LOTUSMAN33]

No I totally agree Lex, that car has definitely found its perfect home for its dream owner, it’s the spec and colour you’ve been hunting for years. SJ will do a lovely job as well so you should have trouble free motoring ahead. 

[Fridge]

£20,000 including profit (I assume the car's for the seller - weird advert)?

Dream on.

Depending upon the quality of work and what needs replacing, the parts alone required to put that back into a reasonable state could almost come to that.

[LOTUSMAN33]

I agree with David, he may cover the interior and paint but any serious mechanical work would be well outside the budget.

He has confirmed its a wet sump car.

Dave  

[stephenwhyte]

Here’s a Dry Sump that I’ve had pictures of, for 10 years.....but had forgotten all about. I thought it was maybe the one mentioned above currently on eBay.....but it’s not, and as we know now it’s a Wet Sump.
I made enquiries about the one below when it was for sale, but not heard or seen anything about it since. Anyone else know the car?

[LOTUSMAN33]

1230, was owned by Zazaa on here Stephen with a sunroof fitted.

Dave  

[stephenwhyte]

Ha....I remember that one - in fact it was pictured in that ad on a post here in the last few days. Interesting that it’s numbered after mine which is 1193.....but still a Dry Sump, but will be because it has Air-Con. Never clicked it was that one - great to see. Looks pretty good too and better with the black bumpers - I remember the ad as it was missing it’s boot lock at the time. Funny the things that stick over the years. Thanks Dave 

[LOTUSMAN33]

It does look much better with the black bumpers and sits well, like you these cars become quite familiar after 25 years of following adverts, club meets, forums and ownership. I’m not a fan of the 80’s added sunroofs but certainly nothing that can’t be fixed. I would get those mirrors painted black as well.

Dave  

 

 

[Lex Templar]

An interesting document outlining the changeover points for wet sumps, no a/c, a/c and ROW.

Is it from the service manual?

first Domestic heater wet sump 1193 @stephenwhyte

first Domestic a/c wet sump 1261

first ROW wet sump 0399

And outlining all Federal cars were wet sump.

I'lll add 1261 and 0399 as milestones in register.

Cheers,

Lex

 

 

Wet sump change point.pdf

[dr_jayhart]

What a coincidence I got this from Andy Graham today too.

I wrote to him because I have one of the new Lotus Heritage certificates of provenance packages and it does not say my car is a dry sump.

 

I wrote to him about it and he sent me this reply attached. It is my understanding that early wet sumps had no facility for air con and so if it was requested you got a dry sump engine is that right? It did say however that the build should have a board in the passenger footwell for an amplifier and so i wonder if the dealership fitted my roof stereo?

Many thanks,

 

Jay