Evora market watch, for discussion and to help those searching!

[Harey]

14 hours ago, DrRick said:

@Harey, any possibility your 'contact' is still around and could be interested in another ISF?

Probably not.  They are great cars, but so niche, that from a Traders point of view difficult to sell on quickly.

[DrRick]

So I'm finding it seems.

[Alastair]

Has everyone that's got an Evora have an engine cover on their car?

 

Looked at a car today and it was missing which wasn't sure if that was normal? Can they be sourced?

[LazyDonkey]

Later cars didn't have them IIRC.    Chat that in extreme temps they can make the engine cooling worse and the advice was always to remove before going on track. 

It's not a very pretty engine in NA form however so i'm sure you could source one if you wanted.....

[internets]

Lotus leadership decided to remove them from the last of the SR's, and also the lower cover on the Exige, much to most people's disappointment as the engine is not the nicest looking and the super charger on the S is not black like the Exige. AFAIK Retro fitting is not that cheap as its not just the engine cover you need to buy.

[C8RKH]

From what I read the engine cover actually helped the cooling!  Don't ask me how or why...

[Bravo73]

Didn't this white 2011 'S' sell very quickly recently?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/222530150150

Its just been relisted on eBay. 

[LazyDonkey]

No idea but those wheels are stunning 

(obviously they ruin the handling, what are you thinking about, just add lightness etc etc)

Edited May 31, 2017 by LazyDonkey

[theelanman]

????.....theyre just the standard later 's' 19" and 20"........

 

[LazyDonkey]

Hmmm.....i think i've spent too long only looking at NAs lol

Also i don't think ive ever seen those wheels in silver on a white car.

or I'm getting old

Or all three. 

[plenty]

Listed for £1k more than previously!  No service history IIRC.

[Bravo73]

Ah, maybe that's why it's back up for sale. 

[CocoPops]

New 400 pricing is crazy!

http://www.hofmanns.co.uk/car-sales/lotus-evora-400-1

£81,950 for a manual 400, with cast wheels not even the forged wheels.

WTF is going on?! Yet second hand 400s are still cheap in comparison.

[Colin P]

@CocoPops I think you and I were fortunate with our timing. Some deals being available coinciding with the lower start point of the Hethel Edition.

Speaking to Martin today when I was at Hofmanns and looking at that car it is nice, but as I said to him, if I'd had to pay that when I got mine I suspect I'd still be in the S1. I was nearly at £80K speccing an alternative to the car I bought back in September and I felt it a step too far then. 

When you now start at c£75K (what is the base these days?) and add black pack at £1500, Alcantara at £2000, Premium paint then you get there very quick. I think there is still a deal to be done, but clearly not to the same degree.

 

[CocoPops]

Absolutely @Colin P I don't think their are the same deals to be had now.

Like you, if the Hethel had been £80k I couldn't have done it.

even psychologically speaking a deal starting with a £6.... is £20k better than a deal starting £8.... even if it's £69,999 vs £80,001

 

[Alastair]

Is it my imagination but after that white s was sold and then wasn't has it kept going up £1k each day. At this rate it'll be more expensive than a new 400 before the end of the month ?

[Bravo73]

On 30/05/2017 at 13:38, LazyDonkey said:

NA Sports Racer are as rare as rocking horse shit. 

Here's one:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/263015073805

But it's quite a premium over a.n.other NA. 

[Randy]

On 5/31/2017 at 21:46, CocoPops said:

New 400 pricing is crazy!

http://www.hofmanns.co.uk/car-sales/lotus-evora-400-1

£81,950 for a manual 400, with cast wheels not even the forged wheels.

WTF is going on?! Yet second hand 400s are still cheap in comparison.

There are a few things going on... All the dealers are being pushed hard by Lotus to advertise at the RRP and I get that and support that as it provides a level playing field.  Over and above that, there are still deals to be done but just not at the same level as 12 months ago.  I'm sure its all part of JMG's plan, first get the market moving and then work on improving the margin and, again, I'm supportive of that as its imperative for all of us, dealers and customers alike, that Lotus make a financial success of this.   Hope people keep buying and understand the value they are getting and what a terrific car the 400 is even if the discounts are quite at the same level.

[CocoPops]

@Randy it wasn't a dig at dealers/lotus, more of a comment regarding second hand values.

As in, why are second hand cars selling so low (in comparison). It makes 2nd cars look cheap (yet they're not flying out of the door) or new cars look expensive?

[Stuno1]

Might be selling mine in August ? Need to start tucking money away for a house. 

Will be selling the Larini valved system, lotus car cover bought through this site to match the car colour and carbon fibre side intake pods separately. Barge boards and front splitter will remain on the car.

Very sad times but needs must. 

Stu

[Randy]

2 minutes ago, CocoPops said:

@Randy it wasn't a dig at dealers/lotus, more of a comment regarding second hand values.

As in, why are second hand cars selling so low (in comparison). It makes 2nd cars look cheap (yet they're not flying out of the door) or new cars look expensive?

Thanks for that and it didn't sound like a dig at all... wanted to intimate that its basically worth picking up the phone to talk to the dealers and hopefully deals can be done below the advertised RRP.

We have found that good used Evora's are great news on the forecourt.  Of course there is always depreciation on cars but compared to German cars of equivalent value the residuals are terrific.

 

[hkp]

Is anyone thinking of selling their 400 in the £50k's??

I'm. very keen to buy one, or a late S1 at a push.

 

[CocoPops]

 

[Alastair]

9 hours ago, hkp said:

Is anyone thinking of selling their 400 in the £50k's??

I'm. very keen to buy one, or a late S1 at a push.

 

Stratton Motor Co offered me a white 400 in the £50's circa a week ago. You could check and see if it's still there...

[hkp]

47 minutes ago, Alastair said:

Stratton Motor Co offered me a white 400 in the £50's circa a week ago. You could check and see if it's still there...

I just missed out on it  and the one at the Porsche centre