Sold the 410 :’( but we all love dogs

[london_v]

Sorry to hear that. I’m a firm believer there is no such thing as a bad dog, only bad owners. Just like children and parents. And colleagues and managers. 

[C8RKH]

10 hours ago, CharlieBrown said:

What have we come to as a race of people where when you say you don't like something means you are automatically labelled a "hater". I appreciate the humour in the post @CharlieBrown so this is a general question re the state of things on the web, as opposed to a jab at your picture which did make me smile.

30 minutes ago, london_v said:

Sorry to hear that. I’m a firm believer there is no such thing as a bad dog, only bad owners. Just like children and parents. And colleagues and managers. 

I disagree. There are bad dogs. There are also bad children and there are also bad parents. The tendency these days though is to not blame the person/animal who did the deed but to find someone else to lay the blame at. It's just the way of the world these days - it's usually "a big man did it then he ran away" kind of excuse.

[C8RKH]

1 hour ago, Colin P said:

I do not find any uninvited interaction with a dog acceptable in any way, contrary to the seeming opinion of most dog owners.

I agree. My wife was out walking the other week in the woods. Having a lovely, peaceful time when a bloody dog came from nowhere, bounding right up to her and jumped up and covered her clothes in mud and almost sent her flying.  The owner arrived and gave that usual "oh yeah, ho hum, sorry about that he's normally such a lovely dog" sort of expression. not a proper apology or anything. Consequence was the following weekend we were both out walking and each time a dog appeared not on a lead the missus wanted to stand behind me. Which is fair enough as any dog bounding towards me would get a kick in the head (I have no idea whether the dog is a good doggie or a bad one so I'll get the retaliation in first) and then I'd give the owner a "oh yeah, sorry about that I did not know he was a lovely dog as he was bounding towards me at warp speed with his mouth open" - hey ho, shit happens.....  The interesting thing is in example one, we're just supposed to put up with it and shut up, in example two no doubt the police would be called and I'd be asked to explain my actions and probably referred to the CPS.

As for the thread drift - the reason for the sale was a dog (amongst other things) so we're just focusing on that aspect. Anyway, i always thread drift... I'm a twit like that.

 

[Colin P]

35 minutes ago, london_v said:

Sorry to hear that. I’m a firm believer there is no such thing as a bad dog, only bad owners. Just like children and parents. And colleagues and managers. 

I disagree, yes there are definitely bad owners, but what this proves is that ANY dog, given the right set of circumstances will snap/react. This is why I made the comment about my older brothers Lab. They had had him for many years and he was a right dopey old git. Never hurt a fly and then one day just went for my nephew - no one has any idea why to this day. The best guess is that he wanted Matthews ice cream.

My little brothers dog however had had a couple of incidents with other dogs before this event (unknown to us, this was 13 years ago and my wife still hasn't entirely forgiven my brother and sister in law). But again was lying peacefully in the loving room seemingly at ease, as my daughter walked past him he just went for her, no warning nothing.

Dogs are wild animals there is always the potential.

[london_v]

22 minutes ago, Colin P said:

I disagree, yes there are definitely bad owners, but what this proves is that ANY dog, given the right set of circumstances will snap/react. This is why I made the comment about my older brothers Lab. They had had him for many years and he was a right dopey old git. Never hurt a fly and then one day just went for my nephew - no one has any idea why to this day. The best guess is that he wanted Matthews ice cream.

My little brothers dog however had had a couple of incidents with other dogs before this event (unknown to us, this was 13 years ago and my wife still hasn't entirely forgiven my brother and sister in law). But again was lying peacefully in the loving room seemingly at ease, as my daughter walked past him he just went for her, no warning nothing.

Dogs are wild animals there is always the potential.

I get what you’re saying. But I think it’s unfair to paint all dogs with the same brush. I was attacked by a dog when I was 5 years old casually riding my bike in the park minding my own business. I was scared of them for the longest time, but then started reading into the psychology of dogs and realised they’re not that bad after all. On the flip side, I cannot stand when people approach my dog and start stroking it without asking and therefore blatantly invading its private space. I make it a point to never approach dogs, because I don’t know anything about it or how it’s feeling.

 

25 minutes ago, C8RKH said:

I agree. My wife was out walking the other week in the woods. Having a lovely, peaceful time when a bloody dog came from nowhere, bounding right up to her and jumped up and covered her clothes in mud and almost sent her flying.  The owner arrived and gave that usual "oh yeah, ho hum, sorry about that he's normally such a lovely dog" sort of expression. not a proper apology or anything.

 

Sorry to hear about this. If that was my dog I wouldn’t stand for that. Again, I put this down to silly dog owners not aware of the situation and / or the inability to command the dog to leave you alone or run back to the owner. I think a lot of dog owners just naturally assume everyone will love their dog and that's just sheer ignorance.

Anyways, back to potato peelers vs scalpels 

[blindside]

Sorry to hear that you had to part with your Evora @london_v

Here's hoping you get back into the Lotus position before too long!

[Chris J]

 

4 hours ago, Colin P said:

I could continue the rant, but I'll simply leave it with the comment, suffice to say I do not find any uninvited interaction with a dog acceptable in any way, contrary to the seeming opinion of most dog owners.

+1 Both my kids (4yr old and 2yr old) are terrified of dogs and most things on 4 legs after being jumped up on and pushed over by uncontrolled dogs in the park.  The owners at best responded to a screaming toddler with "he's very friendly,  a big softy really" while dragging their dog away,  more typically with a complete lack of concern.  And don't get me started on owners (my autocorrect makes that offenders!) who think it's acceptable for their pet to cock its leg over a pram with a baby in it!

[Gashead1105]

#doggate

We have a dog. She's always walked on the lead because she doesn't like other dogs in her face. So don't get me started on uncontrolled dogs who come up off lead and she then snaps at  'oh they're only being friendly' "fuck off, you might think yours is but mine doesn't like it, why are you putting my dog at risk"

 

[Bruss]

I have 2 dogs. They both walk off the lead in the middle of the road.  Neither of them can handle a scalpel or even a potato peeler.

I rest my case, m'lud.

 

 

[Colin P]

55 minutes ago, Bruss said:

I have 2 dogs. They both walk off the lead in the middle of the road.  Neither of them can handle a scalpel or even a potato peeler.

I rest my case, m'lud.

 

 

Don't need either, they have teeth 

[C8RKH]

Oh my god. What have I started. i love it when a topic drifts out of control. Pure chaos. It's infectious (a bit like dogs with rabbies so don't let them near your babies).

Come on now you dog owners, own up, which of you are the bar stewards who take their dogs to the local public football pitches to let them shit and piss all over the place and think it is acceptable?

Which of you look on with pride as your pooch poops on the grass or pavement?

Which of you love to handle that warm poop in a nice little plastic bag - THAT YOU THEN TIE TO THE NEAREST FENCEPOST OR TREE BRANCH YOU DISGUSTING MAGGOTS!

Lol. Sorry. Just having a rant. ignore me please. i am just like many dogs quite harmless, soft and fluffy and bouncy and fun, just like the average dog. We're just wild animals really that tolerate humans. Until we don't.....  hahahahaha.....  Where's my medication.

[Bibs]

[Colin P]

My daughter would love that @Bibs . Funnily she is the one member of the household who’d like a dog, she wants a pug or KC spaniel

[jep]

I've had a few pups in my time...…..but luckily I sold them and only have fine Lotus cars these days.

[CharlieBrown]

On 04/06/2019 at 05:31, Colin P said:

I disagree, yes there are definitely bad owners, but what this proves is that ANY dog, given the right set of circumstances will snap/react. This is why I made the comment about my older brothers Lab. They had had him for many years and he was a right dopey old git. Never hurt a fly and then one day just went for my nephew - no one has any idea why to this day. The best guess is that he wanted Matthews ice cream.

My little brothers dog however had had a couple of incidents with other dogs before this event (unknown to us, this was 13 years ago and my wife still hasn't entirely forgiven my brother and sister in law). But again was lying peacefully in the loving room seemingly at ease, as my daughter walked past him he just went for her, no warning nothing.

Dogs are wild animals there is always the potential.

Dogs are wild animals? 😂 LOL

[Techyd]

Dogs are absolutely wild animals, despite being tamed, always treat with respect.

[Snoopy1969]

So, first: also an Evora is "just" a car....that should be used.....second: sorry to hear about bad stories with dogs, but and this is a real "big" but: I know a lot more bad people than bad dogs, I know a very "general" point of view but you get the message I think. If you criticize dog owners that does not care for a proper education or that leave their waste, fine I am with you - but I hope you act accordingly when people throw away their coffee cups, cigarettes etc. (much bigger problem for the environment by the way ....) .....just my 2p

[london_v]

Haha, dogs are not wild animals by any stretch. They were, once upon a time, just like humans were cavemen, once upon a time. Is a Labrador a wild animal like a Lion? Dogs have evolved and been domesticated over 30,000 years.

Wild animals are not dependent on humans, plus they don’t run to humans when they’re scared or warning them of danger!

Dogs, just like kids, require the right upbringing and teaching. They explore their world with their mouth and often is the only way they can communicate. And like @Snoopy1969 says above, people are far worse than dogs.

[Vulcan Grey]

Did someone say "dog" and "performance SUV"?

I will say it is nice having a dog that loves everyone and everything. And everybody loves him!  We do get mobbed, everybody wants to pet him!

I never have to worry about him starting things with other dogs, we meet tons of neighborhood dogs per day, on every walk!

Some other people's dogs are "reactive" and will lunge or snap or bark at Enzo. He really doesn't care. He just wants to be friends with everything.

We let him out on the porch at times, and he'll watch people and dogs walk by, often on our lawn, and not a peep from Enzo!

We were able to heavily socialize him as a puppy, he's met hundreds of people and dogs, at big events like "Doggiepalooza" at the Belgian brewery behind our house.

We've also taught him to not be sensitive about loud noises like cars, fireworks, thunder... He's always fine!

I do think most of it is training, but I know there are definitely some breed tendencies, and even behaviors passed on by the dogs parents.

 

He's also really good riding in the back of the car, you'd have trouble telling if he's back there at all.

 

[mayevora]

On 11/06/2019 at 23:57, CharlieBrown said:

Dogs are wild animals? 😂 LOL

So what exactly is a wife? 😜 

I’ve said numerous times after the battle scars of 24 years of marriage - the wife will go before the dog goes.

On 04/06/2019 at 17:30, C8RKH said:

Oh my god. What have I started. i love it when a topic drifts out of control. Pure chaos. 

After reading the entire thread, and an analysis of your secret inner feeling, in my professional opinion - Only one thing for it! - Buy a Dog. Borrow a dog. House sit/dog sit. Call it education. Therapy even. Mans best friend. Loyal. No answering back. Always pleased to see you. A welcome like they haven’t seen you for a month after a trip out just to refuel. The best burglar alarm money can buy.

Go on, go on, goooooo on. I can see right through you. Oodles of mut love just oozing to escape. A simple sniff of the crotch or a full on leg mount mount, there is no denying it, you can’t fool us - A dog lover in the making if ever I saw one!

😜

 

[mayevora]

[Techyd]

14 hours ago, london_v said:

Haha, dogs are not wild animals by any stretch. They were, once upon a time, just like humans were cavemen, once upon a time. Is a Labrador a wild animal like a Lion? Dogs have evolved and been domesticated over 30,000 years.

Loving the pedantic 🙂

By the wild animal reference (whoever said it in the thread first - given as it wasn't me) - I'd understood it to be a one word synopsis that dogs are, ultimately not controllable, despite their domestication they can, under the 'right' circumstance(s) be lead by their core instincts and bite / attack.  Those with experience of this are rightly very cautious of dogs.  I have two young children, and I do not leave them alone with the dog - and I love dogs.

 

[Kimbers]

Buying an X3 means you are never allowed to buy a Lotus again. Sorry but you are banned.

Vile Horrid German things!

[london_v]

Haha, ok Mr Kia 😂

[Kimbers]

😯

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