Removing black sticky adhesive from behind door seals?

[AdeMorton]

My 2010 Evora has the '12MY onwards door seals, but the way the seal is attached looks bodged. The seal is fixed to a long piece of plastic which in turn is fastened to the paintwork via several strips of black sticky adhesive. Anyway, I'm trying to clean it all up and fix it better.. the Lotus recommended adhesive cleaner is 'Betaclean 3900' but costs £121.83 from Lotus which strikes me as a tad expensive, but I can't seem to find it anywhere else. Has anyone used an effective adhesive cleaner to get rid of what seems to be fairly heavy duty adhesive, but is kind to paintwork! 

[exeterjeep]

This ?  https://www.silmid.com/cleaners/multi-purpose-cleaners/dow-betaclean-3900-1lt/

[Rambo]

I'd be tempted to try a rag with some petrol, but go gently.

Alternatively there are products available on Amazon or Lakeland plastics for removing sticky residues

[Bruss]

Try brake cleaner.

[AdeMorton]

1 hour ago, exeterjeep said:

This ?  https://www.silmid.com/cleaners/multi-purpose-cleaners/dow-betaclean-3900-1lt/

Yes, that's the thing.. was going to order form there at £34 but it said it didn't support domestic accounts, only businesses?

31 minutes ago, Bruss said:

Try brake cleaner.

Ah ok.. will give that a go tomorrow, thanks

[exeterjeep]

https://www.sjsportscars.com/parts-and-accessories/A100B6008V.htm but need to submit to quote/check the cost. So may cost more.

[AdeMorton]

thanks... works out at £43.90.. maybe, though I think I'll try brake cleaner first!

[Bibs]

https://www.silmid.com/cleaners/multi-purpose-cleaners/dow-betaclean-3900-1lt/

Under £20 for a litre! 

[AdeMorton]

Thanks, I did try there.. comes to £34 when you add vat + delivery.. but when you come to create an account it says its for business/trade only.

[AdeMorton]

Just to complete this thread..  brake cleaner worked ok, still meant several hours of scraping/soaking with fluid etc, but finally it all came off. I also found this place if anyone ever wants to buy the Lotus recommended cleaner: https://www.astonstore.co.uk/product/betaclean-3900/ but brake cleaner worked fine for me so thanks @Bruss for the recommendation.

Now off to work out how to better fix 'MY12 door seals to a 2010 Evora... 🤔

[madmax]

Can I ask what the difference is between the earlier seals and the MY12 seals?

Pics would be great if possible, rather than just 'they're better'.

Are people upgrading due to water ingress or are they a dynamic improvement and make wind noise quieter?

Thanks

[Bibs]

The later are one piece rather then a few bits glued together I seem to recall. 

[AdeMorton]

On 30/11/2022 at 12:27, madmax said:

Can I ask what the difference is between the earlier seals and the MY12 seals?

Pics would be great if possible, rather than just 'they're better'.

Are people upgrading due to water ingress or are they a dynamic improvement and make wind noise quieter?

Thanks

Here's a couple of pics of the 'MY12' seals on my car. The first pic is it in place... the 2010 seals if I remember correctly are glued below what you see to the sill side though I can't remember how it was rooted around the door. The dealer changed mine because I was getting water ingress and the sill top was getting very wet whenever it rained hard? The problem I have with the 'MY12 seals is that the sill ridge/groove (?) isn't deep enough to hold the seal in place so it just comes away usually when you are getting in and out (second pic). I'm just working on a solution to ensure its fixed into place... 

 

[C8RKH]

On 19/11/2022 at 16:54, AdeMorton said:

Lotus recommended adhesive cleaner is 'Betaclean 3900' but costs £121.83

Quick google search and £35, seen it as low as £18.

[AdeMorton]

Your Google must be better than mine 😀. The aston store (link above) works out at £38 inc. postage which was the cheapest I found. There's plenty of Betaclean 3350 but I assume that's a different product, though not really looked into it.