Evora market watch, for discussion and to help those searching!

[RudeDog]

3 hours ago, C8RKH said:

Where else do you get that level of performance and driving pleasure for that price?

To answer your question, there is quite a lot.

I'm going to end up buying another Porsche at this rate.

[CocoPops]

5 minutes ago, RudeDog said:

I'm going to end up with just another Porsche at this rate.

Sad isn't it, when porsches are that common that you have to settle for one.

 

[Bravo73]

3 hours ago, C8RKH said:

Where else do you get that level of performance, driving pleasure and exclusivity for that price?

EFA 

[JAWS]

17 hours ago, Bravo73 said:

I guess that's what the previous owner wanted people to think. He missed the MY12 gear knob though. 

You have still much to learn my friend, the gear knob didn't change for MY12. You're thinking of the SR change to the Exige/Elise knob which subsequently went across the board for MY13/14?

Looks like a enthusiast owned car, which I see as a good thing.

 

[RudeDog]

1 hour ago, CocoPops said:

Sad isn't it, when porsches are that common that you have to settle for one.

 

Yes it is a bit.  My other option is to go for a Maserati GranTurismo S.  It offers a different type of performance and some exclusivity (other than in Surrey) but I already have a big engined heavy car for hammering down the motorways.  Not sure I really need a second car like that, hence why the Evora appeals so much.

[C8RKH]

2 hours ago, RudeDog said:

To answer your question, there is quite a lot.

I'm going to end up buying another Porsche at this rate.

I'll just end up ignoring you as drive past in it. They're so common it even makes seeing a Mondeo a special event these days. Enjoy!  

[Vanya]

I've been doing some digging around and there used to be a Wiki article on here with an Evora Buyer's Guide. I'm sort of in the market for one and am a bit flummoxed as to what exactly happened in 2012 - I've heard quality took a huge step up, but it would be nice if we had a place (sort of like Lotus Esprit World or Esprit Factfile) that provides yearly update info in a short and concise manner. Will I regret buying a Launch Edition or 2010 Evora (I'm quite keen on a particular 2010 which isn't for sale just yet)? 

Would be cool to have as a sticky... 

[mik]

@RudeDog

"I already have a big engined heavy car for hammering down the motorways."

Wotizit?

[Colin P]

I'd take a guess at a C63 AMG  

[RudeDog]

Gold star for Colin

[JAWS]

12 hours ago, Vanya said:

I've been doing some digging around and there used to be a Wiki article on here with an Evora Buyer's Guide. I'm sort of in the market for one and am a bit flummoxed as to what exactly happened in 2012 - I've heard quality took a huge step up, but it would be nice if we had a place (sort of like Lotus Esprit World or Esprit Factfile) that provides yearly update info in a short and concise manner. Will I regret buying a Launch Edition or 2010 Evora (I'm quite keen on a particular 2010 which isn't for sale just yet)? 

Would be cool to have as a sticky... 

Funnily enough the amount of inaccuracies surrounding the Evora is astounding so no wonder you're flummoxed. I'd love to write a proper buyer's guide one day to correct all the wrongs.

However, to try and help you the MY12 (from Summer 2011 build) didn't necessarily improve the quality (the same people and techniques were used) what it did do is improve the tactility of the interior (3mm foam scrim behind the leather) and gear shift (new cables) etc and a also a change in the design of the seats, steering wheel, Brightwork and door seals. If you're interested in actual statistics based on numbers of cars built and issues then MY10 is the best of the bunch. There's always a few things that get improved over time, (a couple of things weren't - original metal interior door handles are worth their weight in gold!) but fundamentally there haven't been major changes over the Evora's life span - they got it pretty spot on from day one.

I personally think that the 1st owner and their persistence in rectifying any tiny issue during the warranty period is the key to making sure an Evora is a good one rather than it's Model Year.

This is a good start...

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=1508046#message1

[C8RKH]

@Vanya

  i have a MY2010 NA. It has the sweetest gearshift, it is like clicking the bolt of a rifle. Wonderful.

It has been 100% reliable and there are no interior rattles or squeaks and no creaking seats. The previous looked after it and things like gear cables were done.

The leather finishing is great ( I have a non premium pack car so no leather on sills or very lower dash ). I replaced my black recaro seats with later SR venom red seats only because I don't like full black interiors! The MY12 SR seats are a different design with regards to stitching but they are the same Recaro Sportster seats and they are soooo comfortable.

On a private sale my car is worth what I paid for it 18 months ago.

I've had the interior retrimmed but that was and is only, as said before, as I don't like full black interiors and have added venom red leather and lighter grey alcantara with red stitching. There is a thread on here with full pictures.

I did put the MY12 door pulls on and they are much better than the originals. But that's the only really noticeable thing. Also I much prefer the earlier brushed metal dash, HVAC shroud than the later darker plastic looking and feeling one. That's just down to personnel preference though.

Best source of info on the Evora is the techwiki on the playground.  you can access it here:

http://wiki.the playground.org/a/Models_-_Evora

There are some people on here who will try to tell you to only buy a MY12+ car, largely because it's what they bought. They refuse to believe the pure facts that show based on warranty / recall work the most reliable / least troublesome Evora's where the 2010 cars. A happy coincidence for me giving mine is 2010 and not something I knew when I bought it.

However there are plenty of earlier car owners on here, LE and non LE, who will tell you they are delighted with their cars.

The old sage advice is to buy on condition. I know of a sub 10k miles, immaculate, enthusiast owned Evora LE  that is for sale if you are interested. It's stunning.

There is not a lot of choice out there. Buy with your head and then heart, on condition, and I reckon you'll be happy for years to come.

I honestly cannot see a point where I will now sell my Evora. It is perfect for me and to my spec. I'll be like Brian "Bingoking" and the other old guys   in LEGS who turn up to our meetings in their superb 20 year old plus Esprits, Europas etc. Happy and chuffed.

I might have a newer Lotus to go with it. But will wait for the Evora roadster which I think will be a major redesign rather than a revamp for the Evora. I'm working hard to earn the cash to make sure I do not need to sell my lovely S1 Evora to buy it. After all, it was my first Lotus and you never forget your true first love!

Best of luck with your search. Show us the piccies etc.

[Vanya]

@JAWS and @C8RKH

Thanks for the advice! 

I will be keeping an eye out. In Sweden Evora prices are plummeting (nobody buys them) - there's a brand new 2012 Evora NA with IPS that's been unsold for years going for 35 000 gbp (and I'm pretty sure they'll go lower.) , and an S Sport Racer IPS for 50 000 gbp with very low miles.

I've become a sucker for +2's though (cozy factor) and manual transmission so I'll be hunting those first and foremost (also heard the IPS takes like 1.5 seconds to change gear!!!! That's a small eternity!). Hoping to nab something at sub 30 000 GBP. 

My current attitude is: I own 2 Esprits. An Evora can't possibly throw me any curveballs after that experience? So Launch Edition, 2010, 2012 whatever - my impression is generally they're sorta the same. And fit and finish has GOT TO be a league above the Esprits, which I'm more than happy with to begin with. 

If the 2012 got updated shift cables I ought to be able to install them myself? As long as it's not like the linkage on the 400 which would necessitate drilling into the chassis on S1 Evoras to retrofit, I'm all good. 

[JAWS]

@C8RKH - Can't believe I forgot about that TechWiki bearing in mind how much I've tweaked it myself over the years

@Vanya - I wouldn't dismiss the IPS, I really like it as have others. The ratios are the pick of the bunch (not surprising as it's the original mating gearbox) and to be honest you'd struggle to change gear quicker manually - one thing the manual gearbox doesn't like is being hurried!.

[Vanya]

Fair point, actually. 

Yeah that Wiki was surprisingly comprehensive. Maybe it should be a sticky? 

[Bravo73]

18 hours ago, JAWS said:

You have still much to learn my friend, the gear knob didn't change for MY12. You're thinking of the SR change to the Exige/Elise knob which subsequently went across the board for MY13/14

Hmmm, where's the smilie that I'm looking for? Ah, here it is: 

But now that I've been educated properly, it would appear that he has missed the SR gear knob. 

[CocoPops]

I'm all for supporting values, but £43,500!? For a 2+0 preMY12 car? Late registered 2013.

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/lotus/evora/lotus-evora-122-v6-s-4------------------2013/6470326

[C8RKH]

I agree Lee, that's super strong money and about £7k over what I would expect to pay. Looks like the yellow one someone had advertised wrongly as an SR earlier this year was it? It's the stickers I think....

[Danelaw]

A little steep perhaps, but at mid-30s I think it would be cheap for a very low mileage S.

These cars are rare as rocking horse poo and here we all know how good they are so I'm not sure why we're so keen to talk the prices down. If the series 1 cars are in demand then prices will rise and you won't find many that have done so few miles. I don't dispute the asking price is on the high side, just saying perhaps not as OTT as others here think.

[Bravo73]

1 hour ago, CocoPops said:

I'm all for supporting values, but £43,500!? For a 2+0 preMY12 car? Late registered 2013.

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/lotus/evora/lotus-evora-122-v6-s-4------------------2013/6470326

Keep up, Lee. We were discussing this car last week:

[CocoPops]

Ahh it's only appeared on ph tonight.

[Bravo73]

30 minutes ago, Danelaw said:

A little steep perhaps, but at mid-30s I think it would be cheap for a very low mileage S.

These cars are rare as rocking horse poo and here we all know how good they are so I'm not sure why we're so keen to talk the prices down. If the series 1 cars are in demand then prices will rise and you won't find many that have done so few miles. I don't dispute the asking price is on the high side, just saying perhaps not as OTT as others here think.

There is an 'actual' SR currently on the market at £47k: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lotus-Evora-S-Sports-Racer-4-V6-2-2-/112201204759

Therefore, the misrepresented MY11 car is wildly overpriced at £43.5/44k. I suspect that at that price it will do what it did last time it was on the market: hang around unsold for months. It's not a question of 'talking down prices'. It's more about being realistic of their actual values. If the yellow car was listed at £35-37k, it would probably sell within hours or days.

[Danelaw]

I think that SR is likely a bit steep too, but it'll depend if somebody wants an SR and is prepared to pay a little extra for one. If there's somebody out there who wants a yellow S without the plus 2 then they'll make an offer and it'll sell - there simply aren't many to choose from.

[C8RKH]

12 hours ago, CocoPops said:

I'm all for supporting values, but £43,500!? For a 2+0 preMY12 car? Late registered 2013.

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/lotus/evora/lotus-evora-122-v6-s-4------------------2013/6470326

Ah, missed that Lee - it was one of the Uber rare +0's hence the price premium. They're more rare than rocking horse shit were as the +2's are as common as dog shit on the street corner 

[CocoPops]

Wow, you're slipping Andy, I started a timing watch from post to comment.... you're slow!