UK Politics Thread

[PaulCP]

They are not politicians any more, just jumped up overgrown school kids carrying on their playground disagreements and name calling between their respective gangs.

Quite frankly pathetic the lot of them!

[C8RKH]

4 hours ago, PaulCP said:

Quite frankly pathetic the lot of them!

I would not have been so kind with my words...

[LotusLeftLotusRight]

What’s the point of Jeremy Hunt’s Budget with exaggerated claims of future growth and all the media number crunching that will follow, considering the Conservatives will be out of office in a few short months? Its effect will be minimal.

By the way, why do we have to have an Autumn Statement and a Spring Budget nowadays? It used to be just the Budget.

[exeterjeep]

1 hour ago, LotusLeftLotusRight said:

By the way, why do we have to have an Autumn Statement and a Spring Budget nowadays? It used to be just the Budget.

may be just to justify the costs of having an exchequer and a whole department of civil servants to support him (her..)

[Kimbers]

1 hour ago, LotusLeftLotusRight said:

What’s the point of Jeremy Hunt’s Budget with exaggerated claims of future growth and all the media number crunching that will follow, considering the Conservatives will be out of office in a few short months? Its effect will be minimal.

Minimal on the Conservatives but think about the effects on the next Labour Govt. 

He's talking a 2% drop in National Insurance. Unless Labour put it back on it will curb their spending and Conservatives say they have not fulfilled their plans. If they do put the 2% back on the Conservatives will say Labour are making the cost of living much worse and taking money from our pockets. Win win for them!

[Barrykearley]

 This is exactly what is wrong with our political system. These clowns need to stop playing and start working.

[PaulCP]

8 hours ago, LotusLeftLotusRight said:

What’s the point of Jeremy Hunt’s Budget with exaggerated claims of future growth and all the media number crunching that will follow, considering the Conservatives will be out of office in a few short months? Its effect will be minimal.

By the way, why do we have to have an Autumn Statement and a Spring Budget nowadays? It used to be just the Budget.

What’s the point of Starmer’s response, just calling Sunak & Hunt “the chuckle brothers of decline”?

Can someone explain to me what he intends to achieve by just another round of petty schoolboy name calling rather than offering some sensible valid criticism whilst suggesting alternatives?

This is exactly why I will not be voting at the next GE. I can’t in all honesty vote Tory because of the mess that they have created and there is no way I can vote for the bunch of Beano characters of Dennis the Menace and Minnie the Minx that Labour represent (showing my age here🙄). FFS Starmer & his cronies leading the country when all they know is name calling and how to act like deprived, uneducated schoolchildren.
They act just as their Spitting Image puppets would, but this is Parliament we are talking about, not a satirical TV show!

The political system in this country is completely broken.

[Barrykearley]

Frankly the tories should have slashed tax for low earners and hiked up the tax free allowance to something like £30k - then just left the Labour Party to properly screw everyone over next budget as soon as they steal power.

[pete]

Needs to sort out the bank rate, everybody gains . He has no control over the bank of england but can threaten a windfall tax on the billions of profit the banks are making from high rates and then wouldn't need to cut any public services 

[Chillidoggy]

23 hours ago, exeterjeep said:

may be just to justify the costs of having an exchequer and a whole department of civil servants to support him, her, they.

Corrected for lack of Wokeness.

[exeterjeep]

Not woken up to wokeness

[Kimbers]

17 hours ago, PaulCP said:

This is exactly why I will not be voting at the next GE.

I'm going to Vote but it will be a protest vote. Last GE we had an independent I voted for. This time I am told we will have Reform so looks like my vote will go with them.  Unfortunately its such a safe Tory seat here (same MP for about 30 years!!) that we don't often get anyone other than the 3 main parties. Last time we had Green as well, though they got virtually no votes, so Reform may be my only option.

[Rambo]

9 hours ago, exeterjeep said:

Not woken up to wokeness

Good for you. And long may it continue !

I think that is me, you and C8RKHLGBTQIA+ in the same camp.

PS am I allowed to say camp these days? 

Edited March 7 by Rambo

[red vtec]

On 06/03/2024 at 07:45, LotusLeftLotusRight said:

What’s the point of Jeremy Hunt’s Budget with exaggerated claims of future growth and all the media number crunching that will follow, considering the Conservatives will be out of office in a few short months? Its effect will be minimal.

By the way, why do we have to have an Autumn Statement and a Spring Budget nowadays? It used to be just the Budget.

Because Labour Policy will be little different, Financial markets guide the economy, the elected government just ride the highs and lows.

I'm also wondering if perhaps the Conservatives don't want to win, the next 5 years are going to be crap. perhaps they are happy to blame that on Labour?

 

[Barrykearley]

Couldn’t have said it better myself @red vtec

[Kimbers]

"Many forms of Government have been tried, and will be tried in this world of sin and woe. No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all-wise. Indeed it has been said that democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.…"

I'm willing to give another a try!

[red vtec]

@kimbers  if you want to get anything done you need a dictatorship, but you have to shoot the dictator after you get what you want.

[pete]

the party announced that former Bank of England governor Mark Carney and Barclays boss C. S. Venkatakrishnan would sit on a taskforce to advise Labour on how to implement

Can't believe labour will bring back Mark Carney and a  Barclays boss , both bankers through and through.