Aircon

[Maggo54321]

Hi all.  I've moved over from the introductions section as I am starting to have technical questions now.

Just bought a 1989 Turbo and the previous owner has taken off the aircon belt as the aircon wasn't working and he said he'd taken it to an aircon regassing place and they laughed at him (something to do with old aircon gas being banned).

So question is, given there's probably none left in the thing anymore, is it simply a case of getting it regassed with up to date gas?  Or not that simple?

[gusexige]

New receiver dryer, flush out the old oil, new oil new refrigerant

That is for the R12 R134a change, perhaps 134 is banned where you are now. 

 

This is a pretty routine thing in the US

 

If it has a leak that should be addressed first anyway

[EXCEL V8]

R134a is less efficient than R12 so it's probably worth replacing the condenser to make sure it's in perfect condition (it might be where the leak is anyway 🙂).

Pete

[NG5]

The original R12 refrigerent had been illegal in the uk for many years. RS24 is an almost straight swap but is only available from a few air con specialists such as https://www.bee-cool-aircon.co.uk/services/r12-a-c-systems/  there are some others on the south coast. A google might find one nearer to you  but there are not many. 

As already said by Pete R134a is less efficient and according to other threads I've seen the old R12 coolant hoses are slightly porous to R134a so although not showing up as leaking in thr standard tests, the coolant doesn't last very long. R134a also doesn't have the correct luberication for the R12 compressor so eventually you will need a new compressor if you go that route.

But you are in the UK, who needs aircon 🤣

[Maggo54321]

Thanks guys.  I guess the first port of call is to get a belt on it.

A quick.google gives a Gates V Belt ref of PNME1800 but I can't get hold of one of those at my local Euro Parts.  Does anyone have the spec of this belt?  I *think* it could be 10mm x 725mm, but I could be way off.

Anyone know for definite?  Or know an alternative code which would be available from Euro car parts?

Thanks in advance

 

[madmax]

When obtaining service parts for these cars I'd be inclined to use specialist suppliers or known cross-referenced parts.

Motor Factors and the like are great for some stuff but when it comes to finding awkward parts for specialist stuff like the Esprit, I find Pete at PNM and Steve at SJ Sportscars and the like invaluable.

I need to review the air con on my Esprit sometime although with the weather so far, we're struggling to get into double figures here - and it's May now!

[Maggo54321]

Thanks Madmax, good point, and I normally would yes, but the car is currently in the garage getting a rotor arm fitted so ideally I would like them to fit the belt whilst they have it, hence the need for one today if possible.

[Maggo54321]

Now I find (thanks to this page) that the part number might be Gates 9313 - which seems to be 13mm x 805mm, and according to this page looks quite an old part number?  Can someone confirm?

Edited May 2, 2023 by Maggo54321

[Roy Lewington]

If you are not sorted this the belt on my 1988 x180 (910 engine):

Gates extra service

6462 EXL

AVX 13x800La

192BE