Evora market watch, for discussion and to help those searching!

[C8RKH]

1 hour ago, eUKenGB said:

However, the issue here with MY12 changes is that there was obviously a changeover period when some cars had a mixture of old and new. The white car I've mentioned has pre MY12 door pins, but a MY12 steering wheel.

Since the differences are not major (and e.g. the steering wheel can be updated later) I guess it's not too important what is the MY of a car.

That's Lotus though - they will "use up" the parts they have BEFORE they move on to the new, hence you often (and have done since the dawn of Lotus) find inconsistencies around spec's on individual cars.

Post MY12 there were some definite improvements in build quality and quality control seemed to have improved somewhat. However, I had a 2010 NA and to be honest it was bloody brilliant, the build quality was excellent and I actually preferred the look and feel of the brushed aluminium in those cars to the what I considered was the naff textured black painty thingy of the later cars.

I do believe a lot of people "talk up" the MY12 changes, it's just a "pride and protect the value of my car" thing to me.  Any Evora, no matter it's age or mileage, needs to be bought on condition. Many LE's had no issues at all. Some had more issues than a Friday afternoon Morris Marina. Plenty of post MY12 cars had issues where pre MY12 did not. Indeed, last I looked the warranty claims on the post MY12 were HIGHER than the pre MY12 cars....  Go figure why everyone says the MY12 are better (yes, Lotus did put a thicker foam under the leather to make it softer and more luxurious etc.)

I do still hanker after my old 2010 NA and at some point can see me buying back an NA as a keeper to sit alongside my 410 Sport.  They are the same cars in essence but totally different characters.  The former is Joanna Lumley, where as the latter is a bit more Halle Berry

[Neal H]

There was a definite step change in quality with MY12 Evora.

I recall having a 2013 NA SR as a loan car while my MY10 was in for a service and the difference was very noticeable!

With hindsight, I think a post MY12 NA SR is the perfect road going sports car.

[C8RKH]

18 minutes ago, Neal H said:

With hindsight, I think a post MY12 NA SR is the perfect road going sports car.

Would be a lovely car as a keeper. Likely very reliable too as should be well sorted by now. This would do fine!

[pete]

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/lotus/evora/lotus-evora-3-5-vvti-v6-sports-low-miles-with-full-main-dealer-history-stunning/9941696

Any thoughts on this one

[scotty435]

22 hours ago, jep said:

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/lotus/evora/evora-v6-4-ips-3-5-2dr-coupe-automatic-petrol/9865121

This one? Now sold or at least that is what they say in this ad.

Justin

Definitely a MY12 car a early one it’s as the door sill plates that only the first cars came with this feature was soon dropped don’t no why, steering wheel design never change apart form quality of the leather from 10 to 12 apart from sports racers came with black design instead of the aluminium which carried on with none SR cars.

[jep]

28 minutes ago, pete said:

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/lotus/evora/lotus-evora-3-5-vvti-v6-sports-low-miles-with-full-main-dealer-history-stunning/9941696

Any thoughts on this one

Has this one been discussed previously? Black seats but oyster trim band, I did not think the factory did such a spec. I thought the trim band always matched the seats in early Evora.

It has the original gear-knob, which is my book is a major plus point.

Justin

[jep]

I don't recall ever seeing this trim option on any Evora...…..has anyone seen this? The picture is from the Lotus Evora Extras brochure circa 2010.

I have a roll of cocobolo leather, so may need to add these 'flashes' to mine.

Justin

 

 

[C8RKH]

1 hour ago, scotty435 said:

Definitely a MY12 car a early one it’s as the door sill plates that only the first cars came with this feature was soon dropped don’t no why, steering wheel design never change apart form quality of the leather from 10 to 12 apart from sports racers came with black design instead of the aluminium which carried on with none SR cars.

Ooooh. I have a brand new set of those sill plates somewhere. Was going to put them onto my NA and never got around to it.  Got some of the last sets from Lotus. They are shiny shiny nice...

Not so keen on the chequerboard mats but I tell you what, Lotus really did nail the S1 interior. Just lovely and a cup holder in each door pocket to boot!

This was my S1 interior - still, and yes I am very biased, one of the nicest out there!

[tim_marra]

1 hour ago, scotty435 said:

Definitely a MY12 car a early one it’s as the door sill plates that only the first cars came with this feature was soon dropped don’t no why, steering wheel design never change apart form quality of the leather from 10 to 12 apart from sports racers came with black design instead of the aluminium which carried on with none SR cars.

If by black design you are referring to the metal trim alternative to the ali finish then it actually pre-dates the SR but is a MY12 feature. Don't know the period for the fancy door sill plates but mine has them (Sept 12 delivery). At the time the dealer (Murray) said it was the first they had seen with them fitted.

[eUKenGB]

3 hours ago, Neal H said:

...

With hindsight, I think a post MY12 NA SR is the perfect road going sports car.

Can someone enlighten me as to the additional features of the Sport Racer - apart from some black detailing?

[Bibs]

Comes with Sport, Tech and Premium packs and was available at a special price for a fully specced car.

[tim_marra]

9 minutes ago, eUKenGB said:

Can someone enlighten me as to the additional features of the Sport Racer - apart from some black detailing?

Basically a full spec car with the entire options list for less than it would cost to option yourself. The biggest giveaway externally is the full black pack and rear badges, and internally it is the alcantara trim pieces to the dash, doors and centre console.

[eUKenGB]

3 minutes ago, Bibs said:

Comes with Sport, Tech and Premium packs and was available at a special price for a fully specced car.

Ha, you know my next question. Sport, Tech and Premium packs?

Obviously collections of options, but is there a handy document that lists everything they include?

[tim_marra]

https://issuu.com/lotuscars/docs/evora_brochure_eng

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=213&t=1047020

 

[C8RKH]

Seloc techwiki is all you need to google. In  a nutshell

Sport - cross drilled brake discs and twin sports exhaust and on the earliest cars a CR gearbox

Tech - reversing camera, garage opener, satnav stereo, cruise control

Premium - lovely trimmed racaro seats with piping/leather carbon weave, armrest, alcantara to dash and doors, accent lighting

[Bravo73]

2 hours ago, scotty435 said:

the door sill plates that only the first cars came with this feature was soon dropped don’t no why,

ISTR that lots of owners were scuffing them getting in & out of their cars. This resulted in lots of warranty claims so the plates were removed or changed (I can’t remember which). 

[eUKenGB]

25 minutes ago, tim_marra said:

https://issuu.com/lotuscars/docs/evora_brochure_eng

 

Know anywhere I can download that? I've not got an Evora pdf for the earlier cars.

[Bravo73]

40 minutes ago, eUKenGB said:

Obviously collections of options, but is there a handy document that lists everything they include?

This forum also has a really useful search function... 

3 minutes ago, eUKenGB said:

Know anywhere I can download that? 

You can download it from the issuu link. Otherwise, I’m pretty sure that Googoo will find it easily enough. 

[scotty435]

1 hour ago, C8RKH said:

Seloc techwiki is all you need to google. In  a nutshell

Sport - cross drilled brake discs and twin sports exhaust and on the earliest cars a CR gearbox

Tech - reversing camera, garage opener, satnav stereo, cruise control

Premium - lovely trimmed racaro seats with piping/leather carbon weave, armrest, alcantara to dash and doors, accent lighting

Sports exhaust the blue tipped one was a option never came standard on any model.

[C8RKH]

35 minutes ago, scotty435 said:

Sports exhaust the blue tipped one was a option never came standard on any model.

It was a part of the sports pack - i.e. titanium blue tipped sports exhaust tailpipe. Full option pack details below 

 

Pack
Sport Pack Switchable Sports mode featuring Enhanced Throttle response and RPM limit Sports traction control mode with increased yaw and slip thresholds Sports diffuser Titanium sports exhaust tailpipe Cross drilled brake disks Black painted brake callipers Engine Oil cooler
Premium Pack Accent Lighting Leather trimmed tailgate insert panel Evora Logo on dash Premium floor mats Choice of Seat Leather Colour: Charcoal, Chestnut, Oyster or Paprika. Leather door panelling below trim band Leather trimmed door pockets Leather footwell side panels Leather trimmed armrest Fully leather trimmed centre console
Tech Pack Upgraded stereo system with: Alpine Mobile Media Station DVD±R/±RW/MP3/AAC/WMA/DivX Playback 2x50W High Power Amp (6" 1/4 coaxial 2-way speakers & dash mounted tweaters) Alpine Lightweight amplifier with lightweight 150watt subwoofer 7" WVGA Touch Screen display Alpine BlackBird Portable Satellite Navigation Bluetooth mobile phone connection USB connection for various iPod models and selected other MP3 player and memory sticks iPod connection and docking cradle in glovebox Full speed AUX input Quick search Cruise Control, included in steering wheel Rear parking sensors Tyre pressure monitoring system

1 hour ago, Bravo73 said:

ISTR that lots of owners were scuffing them getting in & out of their cars. This resulted in lots of warranty claims so the plates were removed or changed (I can’t remember which). 

How can "scuffing" your sill plate be a warranty issue - just take more care getting in and out. You wouldn't treat a "kerbed" wheel as a warranty item.

[scotty435]

4 minutes ago, C8RKH said:

It was a part of the sports pack - i.e. titanium blue tipped sports exhaust tailpipe. Full option pack details below 

 

Pack
Sport Pack Switchable Sports mode featuring Enhanced Throttle response and RPM limit Sports traction control mode with increased yaw and slip thresholds Sports diffuser Titanium sports exhaust tailpipe Cross drilled brake disks Black painted brake callipers Engine Oil cooler
Premium Pack Accent Lighting Leather trimmed tailgate insert panel Evora Logo on dash Premium floor mats Choice of Seat Leather Colour: Charcoal, Chestnut, Oyster or Paprika. Leather door panelling below trim band Leather trimmed door pockets Leather footwell side panels Leather trimmed armrest Fully leather trimmed centre console
Tech Pack Upgraded stereo system with: Alpine Mobile Media Station DVD±R/±RW/MP3/AAC/WMA/DivX Playback 2x50W High Power Amp (6" 1/4 coaxial 2-way speakers & dash mounted tweaters) Alpine Lightweight amplifier with lightweight 150watt subwoofer 7" WVGA Touch Screen display Alpine BlackBird Portable Satellite Navigation Bluetooth mobile phone connection USB connection for various iPod models and selected other MP3 player and memory sticks iPod connection and docking cradle in glovebox Full speed AUX input Quick search Cruise Control, included in steering wheel Rear parking sensors Tyre pressure monitoring system

How can "scuffing" your sill plate be a warranty issue - just take more care getting in and out. You wouldn't treat a "kerbed" wheel as a warranty item.

I stand corrected 👍

[Bruss]

3 hours ago, C8RKH said:

Ooooh. I have a brand new set of those sill plates somewhere. Was going to put them onto my NA and never got around to it.  Got some of the last sets from Lotus. They are shiny shiny nice...

Not so keen on the chequerboard mats but I tell you what, Lotus really did nail the S1 interior. Just lovely and a cup holder in each door pocket to boot!

This was my S1 interior - still, and yes I am very biased, one of the nicest out there!

Nice, but no cigar.

 

[eUKenGB]

2 hours ago, Bravo73 said:

...You can download it from the issuu link...

Nope, not for me anyway. Just says that publication has not been made available for download.

Anyway, no worries as I found it elsewhere and was able to download it.

Edited April 7, 2020 by eUKenGB

[LOTUSMAN33]

56 minutes ago, Bruss said:

Nice, but no cigar.

 

Nah! Original is always the best 😁😉

[JAWS]

21 hours ago, eUKenGB said:

Yes, having worked in the motor industry I am aware of the difference between model year and year of first registration. Unfortunately most 'sellers' are not, or pretend not to be, depending on what suits them.

However, the issue here with MY12 changes is that there was obviously a changeover period when some cars had a mixture of old and new. The white car I've mentioned has pre MY12 door pins, but a MY12 steering wheel.

Since the differences are not major (and e.g. the steering wheel can be updated later) I guess it's not too important what is the MY of a car.

Be wary of the accuracy of information, even on here (which tends to be the most accurate). The deletion of the door pins was never planned to be a MY12 change and was introduced a few months later. As for MY12 changes happening at different times, this is absolute nonsense too. All production planned changes were done in an accurate and efficient manner. Bruss/Bravo73's was pretty much the last MY11 Evora before Lotus moved to MY12 and made all the updates in one hit. 

Other points brought up. The Evora sports exhaust (blue tipped) was never part of the sport pack and was a stand alone option (as stamped with "track use only") that could only be fitted after the car was PTS.d. The sports pack simply added titanium tips to the standard exhaust and were the same colour as the standard stainless steel ones (i.e not blue) 

Also the CR gearbox was never part of the sports pack and was also a stand alone option up until MY12, when it was then standardised. 

It seems odd that a lot of mis information gathers more momentum than accurate info. I've read so much dross over the 10 years of Evora ownership, and feel like I'm a broken record repeating accurate stuff. I read a while back someone stated the Evora interior door handles are from the Honda Civic, just looking at the difference in size surely highlights the stupidity of this. Still didn't stop Absolute Lotus Magazine putting it in print. 😂