Coronavirus

[andydclements]

I seem to have missed the hypothesis that the CV has been brought by space aliens (I called out space to differentiate between those simply from other countries), sorely it must have been doing the rounds by now.

[RS blu]

In Italy the population reacted very well, there is no panic here. In northern Italy we reopened closed hospitals and created new beds, all in about a week, an emergency plan was created, retired doctors were called, and the trainees of medicine were called. But all this works only if people are as isolated as possible, where the population does not participate and continues to meet, the virus continues to spread. We thought we were safe here. We have been checking stations and airports for months, but it was not enough, in a few days we found ourselves with many serious cases, be careful We have isolated some northern countries closed airports and stations and so in the center and south the virus has spread less.

We must not underestimate, here they said it was a simple flu, that the percentage of serious cases was very low, but it is not so. in Italy health has always worked very well, but despite this we have several deaths.

Edited March 16, 2020 by RS blu

[C8RKH]

Panic buying Scottish style - Glasgow today.

[Dan E]

The problem is and I just Had this conversation with the MIL! 
 

me: you need to self isolate, like now 

her: but I don’t have a cough 

me: I know that’s good but you need to isolate to keep the NHS running this is not about you 

her: I feel fine 

me: did you watch the news? 
 

her: yes but I feel fine, can you get me some cash as I am going to the hairdressers tomorrow 

me: you’re not listening 

and that is what we up against, they know better, she is 90 years old with health problems 

 

 

[C8RKH]

Give her an extra £20 and tell her to go to the pub on the way back!

My mothers best friend is 79. For 55 years or so she smoked 20 fags a day. At 74, the doctors said she needed to give up as it would kill her. For three years afters she looked like shit. She had a yanking cough. Was repeatedly ill.  At 78 she told them to fook off, went back to smoking and she hasn't coughed for 12 months and has more energy than ever. Go figure. Some of these oldsters are resilient little fookers! 

[pete]

2 hours ago, The Pits said:

However bad the virus is, panic is doing even more harm. A major concern now is the deaths that might result from vulnerable non-infected people who won't get medical help from an over-loaded NHS.

Very disappointed that the media are doing nothing but reassure and instead increasing the paranoia and fear. BBC led with 'first man to die in wales' today. Not that there has been a fall in new cases. They also showed a video of a fight in a supermarket in Australia all promoting the narrative that society is on the brink of collapse. It turns out the fight wasn't actually anything to do with what's going on. Nothing about the great things communities are doing to help look out for each other. 

 

And don't get me started on Piers Morgan

[Sparky]

I've treated my MIL to a world cruise.

[Dan E]

They’re so fecking annoying, she will not self isolate, absolutely not a chance!! I do get this, it is not about you but the NHS and I have a lot of time for the NHS as they saved my life but would they be able to do that if these annoying old people ignore the advice !! 

[red vtec]

On 15/03/2020 at 12:48, C8RKH said:

You're not worried but your are alarmed. Why? These are reasonable steps being taken in 2020 to stop/control/reduce the impacts of a pandemic.

I never thought I'd see a day when an aging film star would be the leader of the free world. When a lunatic businessman with spray tan would be the leader of the free world. When companies with assets with a market value of £60m would have a stock market value of £2.5bn (Intu in case you were wondering). etc.  In short, shit happens. I bet my grandparents never thought they would experience two world wars (one they weren't old enough to fight in and one they were). I bet my parents never thought they would see England win the world cup. Did my generation ever think that Brexit would really happen?

In short, I cannot control these things so I really don't worry about them happening. What's next, ZNation and Zombie apocolypse move from the cinema to world life? Well, shit happens, who knows, maybe!

No shit. He could have said "well, actually, sorry everyone but our model was wrong. It was a complete pile of shite. We know nothing" but of course he wouldn't would he?  🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Yes shit does happen, having had to watch someone die in front of me whilst on an life support system. I sincerely hope you have not had to / don’t have to go through the same. There will be families that do. Shit happens. 

I’m alarmed because I never expected to see countries closed, travel stopped, populations put in lockdown. I never expected to hear an urgent call for extra ventilators, to see Western European health systems swamped.  I hope that it is not as bad. 

But shit happens. 

 

34 minutes ago, Dan E said:

The problem is and I just Had this conversation with the MIL! 
 

me: you need to self isolate, like now 

her: but I don’t have a cough 

me: I know that’s good but you need to isolate to keep the NHS running this is not about you 

her: I feel fine 

me: did you watch the news? 
 

her: yes but I feel fine, can you get me some cash as I am going to the hairdressers tomorrow 

me: you’re not listening 

and that is what we up against, they know better, she is 90 years old with health problems 

 

 

Ours has just mentioned that her freezer hasn’t worked for months. Not mentioned during that time. 

[Dan E]

They are so f&£king annoying, I reckon at best 50% of them will do this! I had to hand the phone over to my wife in the end 😡

[Sparky]

Mine, conversely, is entirely compliant and will believe anything I tell her.  I've just informed her that the virus won't survive a good bleach gargle.

[C8RKH]

39 minutes ago, red vtec said:

Yes shit does happen, having had to watch someone die in front of me whilst on an life support system. I sincerely hope you have not had to / don’t have to go through the same. There will be families that do. Shit happens. 

Colleague in work had to go home today. His 9 year old god daughter died, on a life machine, after a long fight with leukaemia. Truly tragic.

Yup shit happens every day to all sorts of people. So please people, do us all a favour and stop panicking. Stop spreading hysteria. And if you are really worried, or considerate, then just stay at home in isolation with your family and stop worrying about stuff you cannot control.

There will be some people who die of a stroke / heart attack from the stress and worry of catching this bloody virus. Really. There will!

[andydclements]

32 minutes ago, Sparky said:

Mine, conversely, is entirely compliant and will believe anything I tell her.  I've just informed her that the virus won't survive a good bleach gargle.

You are very lucky.

My 88yr old mother went out out to a restaurant yesterday with her 9yr old great granddaughter, taken by my brother and sister in law. My mother also complained when I said I wasn't taking her to a garden centre today. She knows about the advice, and hasn't left the house much (other than medical appointments) in the last couple of months. 

[gregs24]

My mother was complaining isolation is going to ruin her Mothers Day. I said if you don't self isolate you may well not see another Mothers Day. She seems to have got the message .... for now

[Bibs]

https://www.bing.com/covid

Interesting map from Microsoft.

[s4simon]

My MIL returned yesterday from a 3 week trip to Italy, France and Spain + a 2 week cruise through the med. Re-entered the country (Australia) to a compulsory 2 week isolation.

We've been updating her on all the problems that she would face getting back into the country, She doesn't listen or care.  She caught a 90 minute packed train back home and says she's not sick, so doesn't see any reason why she can't leave the house to see friends and go shopping.  My wife has given up and won't talk to her - beyond reasoning.

[RobinB5]

6 hours ago, Bibs said:

https://www.bing.com/covid

Interesting map from Microsoft.

89 active cases in Russia, and we worry about the honesty and transparency of our government?

[KAS-118]

Yeah - if you look at the surrounding countries it is hard to believe 🤔

[Mark Blanchard]

Yes obviously people in Russia are immune to it.  All the vodka they drink is killing the disease.

[Barrykearley]

These numbers I’m sure will be skewed massively by folks with colds. How many of these are genuine lab proven cases and not diagnosed over the phone cases?

[comem47]

A movie to self-isolate with. If you've been self medicating enough you'll start believing this is the cure happening real time.  😲

 

 

[Barrykearley]

Morrisons this morning to pick up grub for lunch - plenty of bog roll - only 2 packs per person.

folks comparing the best method of buying to maximise sheet acquisition. Couldn’t help but point out you can buy as many copies of the Sun as you want from the front counter everyday

[KAS-118]

1 hour ago, Barrykearley said:

These numbers I’m sure will be skewed massively by folks with colds. How many of these are genuine lab proven cases and not diagnosed over the phone cases?

Well the Map says that its confirmed Cases. Hence 45K tested in the UK but only 1,543 Confirmed cases as shown on the Map.

So based upon that - all are genuine cases; and not people with mere colds.

 

Edited March 17, 2020 by KAS-118

[Jacques]

We have now made a logistics center to sort out any eventual incoming problems with lack of medical supplies between any hospital in the country.

The ec now talking about "green lanes" aka trucks only, to to avoid ques and help supplies of anything needed. Hmm... I think there are plenty of free lanes these days. Anyway, only 3 weeks late with the suggestion from the ec, so that works

Regarding the mil that some of us experience as super stubborn. Very annoying, but I think that somethimes the world may look different in their view. One thing they may not want, is to sit home and waiting to become ill and possibly pass away from that discease. I think they'd rather live on, with joy and experience of life itself, being that a travel around the planet, or going to the hairdresser.

So said my grandmother when whe was 98 y.o. She lived full on, never ill, apart from when she survived cancer 40 years earlier, a world war, countless terror attacks, oil crisis and what not, until one morning she got out of bed (super early as always), and informed us that now she was tired of life and want to sleep, said goodbye and thanks for everything, made sure that we, her grandchildren were managing well in life, looked out of the window with a view to green fields and forest in the background, laid down, smiled and silently slept and passed away. The elderly people have their own way of seeing life. Who am I do decide?

Best wishes for everyone.

Kind regards,

jacques

[Kimbers]

My father is 82 and high risk as he has underlying health issues namely lung issues. His wife has a friend in hospital and visits her twice a day every day.

The hospital has said not to come in unless essential, they have cancelled non essential appointments and advised people not to visit.

Dads Mrs has told him she is going in no matter what as her friend is "lonely and bored".

It's about time the Govt stopped "Advising" and started backing this up with action. Close the Hospitals to visitors. Close pubs etc. This wishy washy rubbish about "People should avoid going into restaurants" is not helping.

Several young people I know (maybe family members) have flatly refused to consider self isolating if Wendy or I am ill as they will lose their jobs. They are on zero hour contracts and have been told if they take 2 weeks off work they will be replaced.