Coronavirus

[C8RKH]

@Sparky - get Tracy chained to that sowing machine mate. My cash is waiting (paypal so covid compliant  ) when she's done!  Does she do them in Fire Red? Blacks always a bugger to keep clean looking....

 

[tim_marra]

Racist. 

[Clive59]

On 12/07/2020 at 08:28, rjwooll said:

so fewer are dying now

Heard that a local funeral place has much fewer deaths now than last year. Are the statistics being applied correctly to indicate what is really happening? And why is so little being said about ways to boost immune system, like getting sunlight exposure? 

[LotusLeftLotusRight]

Well you can’t die twice. CV obviously shuffled tens of thousands off this mortal coil, before their natural time was due, so it will take a while to return to equilibrium.

[andydclements]

Even at the time when the most deaths were occurring, funeral directors were taking a big financial hit. The funerals were a lot less complex, with  private family-only services, no post-event gathering etc, all that means less add-on services and less time required so they will be less busy. Now, with lower death rates and still probably less add-ons (e.g. would many 60+yr olds etc want to gather in a venue after a funeral if they have been told to keep distant from people?) it will be even more of a hit for the funeral directors.

[PaulCP]

8 hours ago, ChrisJ said:

This virus is not going away, we need to learn to live with it.

Except that some 40,000 plus people didn’t get the opportunity to learn to live with it, some through no fault of their own

Don't understand the “I don’t like being toLd what I should do mentality” but I guess at least you’ll be helping the cause by staying away from premises where you SHOLD wear a mask.

Yes, I do wear one and will continue to do so

[100th_Idiot]

8 hours ago, Sparky said:

Fortunately, Tracy's a bit of a whizzkid on the sewing machine.

You've got some thin legs to fit in that posing pouch.

[Sparky]

No, you have the scale wrong.

[DDubya]

13 hours ago, Sparky said:

Fortunately, Tracy's a bit of a whizzkid on the sewing machine.

Is that your thong?

[ramjet]

Schlong thong?

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On the mask thing, yes the inside of your eye sockets is a mucous membrane, but it pales into insignificance to the mucous membrane square area that is exposed to potential infection via your nose, mouth and lungs.

So, if you maintain distance from people as much as possible and wear a mask, the likelihood of contracting C19 via your eyes as the infection point, would be extremely low.

[pete]

Will you have to wear a mask even where social distancing is being observed

[pete]

On 09/07/2020 at 12:00, Bibs said:

£190bn to date - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-53342271

Jeff Bezos is estimated to be worth 178 billion dollars which puts that into perspective. Don't understand why the government is loathe to increase income tax . When I started work and right up to the mid eighties income tax was 33% or 30% . For some reason modern chancellor's have reduced tax down to 20% but increased national insurance which is easier for companies and individuals to avoid

[C8RKH]

Er no.

Yes, the basic rate of income tax has come down and this has been to benefit lower earners and reduce their tax take.  Seems like a fair and positive move to me and the right thing to do as this helps the young and pensioners more proportionally.

However, the tax rate at the higher end has gone up. I paid 43% on all my earnings last year and don't have any "personal allowance". I don't whinge about that 43%, it's fair, but I will whinge if it goes any higher as I also have full NIC's taken out as well which takes my overall deductions to around 48%.  Hence why I would pissed if it went any higher. (or not as I couldn't afford the wine!) 

[pete]

Lower earners can be protected by raising the free pay amount. In  the seventies top rate was 83%

[C8RKH]

Yup I've paid higher and I was bothered about it then and will be if it happens again. Not sure what your point is Pete - there is a point where ever higher taxes becomes counter productive and actually disincentives people to aspire and work hard.

[pete]

How is the money to be paid back if taxes aren't raised

 

[C8RKH]

It will still be paid back it will just take longer. I've been working no stop these past months AND paying my taxes, I firmly believe I have paid enough! 

[Barrykearley]

Typical middle class response 

[pete]

This isn't just about you, there are 30 million others in the uk  . 10% of taxpayers pay 60% of all tax so maybe the other 90% need to contribute a bit more

[C8RKH]

Yup. You got me there.  My mates from the council estate wouldn't know me....

[williamtherebel]

[C8RKH]

3 hours ago, pete said:

This isn't just about you, there are 30 million others in the uk  . 10% of taxpayers pay 60% of all tax so maybe the other 90% need to contribute a bit more

The top 1% of earners pay 30% of all tax, largely due to the significant number of adults in the UK who pay no tax at all. Good luck getting them to get in there wallets.

Fundamentally, I think the tax system right now is pretty fair and would be happy to see it stay the same and if that means it takes longer to pay the Covid bill then fair enough. It took is until 2015, around 160 years to pay the slavery debt. It took us 60 years to pay all the debts from WW2. So if it takes 50 years for COVID so what?

But the reality is, higher tax rate payers will be the ones who get hit as (1) We'll complain but pay it and (2) politically it is palatable.

So whilst it's not about me, I'll end up footing more of the bill, again like all the other higher rate taxpayers!!!  Bear in mind I work PAYE so can't pay myself dividends or any other "tax dodges" - the taxman see's everything and takes a fcuking shit load......

Maybe leave the income tax rates and thresholds as they are. Stick a £1 a pint duty on beer/cider. £3 on a bottle of wine. £5 on spirits. £5 on a packet of 20. And up VAT to 40% on shellsuits, hoodies, joggers that don't cover your arse crack, tops that show your belly button from your pot belly (male or female) and anything made by Superdry, Lonsdale or Burberry! Should get the COVID bill paid for quicker.

At the same time whap up the tax on watches and "luxury goods" to 40% - if you can spend £25k on a rose gold Daytona you can afford £30k, legalise weed with a 25% VAT rate and introduce a new minimum price tax on chocolates, sweets and biscuits of £1 per 100grams.  Sorted.

 

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[Dan E]

Now @C8RKH I disagree with your Dividend comment especially as on 1st Aug I will be paying a massive Corp Tax bill along with the pensions, private health care and NI I pay  etc, etc ( and topping up anyone furloughed)  . However the legalise drugs and tax it is a brilliant idea, I don’t btw ( well not for decades) do treat yourself and watch Micheal Moore ( no not a fan) Invade Next and watch all of it as it will make you think and the Portugal part is fascinating maybe not as much as the Norway jail system. Worth a watch . 

[C8RKH]

@Dan E - there are some people who play by the rules (sounds like that includes you) and there are others who just take the piss - but then you get that in PAYE world too......

Generally, I'm a happy bunny. I earn OK and so happily pay my taxes.  But I do get more and more pissed about the fact that people like me are seen as "soft targets" for tax rises.  Any hows, nothing much I ever say on here is to be taken seriously. It's just a good place to vent!  Hahahaha...

[Barrykearley]

I reckon anyone with a modern 2 seater should defo pay double road tax...