Coronavirus

[Mysterae]

America's great masturbate.....what good could come [sic] from it....

So many golden quotes from that video 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[DaveC72]

Genius!

[ChrisJ]

https://jbhandleyblog.com/home/2020/7/27/lockdownlunacythree

 

 

[Chillidoggy]

Yet another 'expert' after her 15 minutes.

[Kimbers]

1 hour ago, Buddsy said:

They discuss the crapola virus and how the American People are caught in an irrational web of fear.

Yet they still won't lock down. Hence why they have the highest infection rate and their deaths are off the chart! "Irrational" web of fear my arse!.

Take it from someone who has had it. Having a Temperature, not being able to taste or smell anything is uncomfortable. Coughing continuously and not being able to breathe is scary! I never went to hospital as I was "Mildly" Ill with Corona. But felt like I was on my way out!  Since then I have spent 3 months getting better but I still have issues related to it.

I don't care about the conspiracy theories. It's here now, its worldwide and anything and I mean ANYTHING you can do to reduce the chance of getting it even by 0.5% is worth doing.

[RobinB5]

3 hours ago, Buddsy said:

Breitbart still have it here.

LOL!

All those white coats, must be true because of the white coats.

[C8RKH]

Yeah, they must have a good marketing department! 

[RobinB5]

On 28/07/2020 at 09:30, Chillidoggy said:

Is there anyone other than me that wants to punch this bloke?

There is precious little enough satire around anymore as it's all been sent to the incinerator*. Despite the fact Tom Walker is actually a bit left of center, his Jonathan Pie character is a welcome relief, raging against the conceited woke society in which we find ourselves: (*I use this term only in reference to his use of it in this video)

 

[Bibs]

[Chillidoggy]

2 hours ago, RobinB5 said:

There is precious little enough satire around anymore as it's all been sent to the incinerator*. Despite the fact Tom Walker is actually a bit left of center, his Jonathan Pie character is a welcome relief, raging against the conceited woke society in which we find ourselves: (*I use this term only in reference to his use of it in this video)

 

I don’t have any issue with the content at all. I just find him irritating. 

[Kimbers]

I love him. His rant on being "Offended" was one of the best I have ever heard. Brilliant stuff.

 

[Barrykearley]

Some of his stuff I find stupid and left field - still makes me chuckle though. I actually think he manages to straddle the centre ground surprisingly well.

[RobinB5]

He is a satirical genius for verbalising so well all that is shit and fucked up in our society at the moment. He should be lauded.  

[Chillidoggy]

He’s utterly superfluous when we have @C8RKH

[ChrisJ]

UK - source: https://coronavstats.co.uk/uk/deaths

UK locked down 23/3

Sweden - source: https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/09f821667ce64bf7be6f9f87457ed9aa

No lockdown for Sweden

Makes me wonder if the lockdown had any effect whatsoever.

[Mysterae]

What that graph comparison tells me is that it would have been much WORSE without a lockdown in the UK, don't you agree? 

Those that were more susceptible to early death from Covid in the UK but avoided it due to the lockdown would be piled even higher in the UK graph.

You can't compare base data like that without further analysis. For example, the population of the UK (66.6m) compared with Sweden (10m), that's a huge difference. Then take the demographic of the UK and Sweden and compare the deaths - the percentages of ages, sex, ethnicity, living/housing density, cleanliness habits and general health of the nations. The UK compares badly with Sweden in a few of those categories.

I do believe the lockdown has limited the deaths from Covid so far but it has not and will not eradicate it completely. The lockdown has bought countries time and reduced the strain on the healthcare system over the duration, exactly what it was intended to do. The second wave isn't going to look so "pretty".

[Chillidoggy]

To me, the 'Deaths per 1M of Population' is the most important statistic when looking at performance. As far as I can see, Belgium is top of the pile, followed by the UK and Spain, Italy and Sweden, although these figures change by the day. So the 'bold' Swedish approach didn't work.

[LotusLeftLotusRight]

On 27/07/2020 at 14:29, LotusLeftLotusRight said:

One other con with TUI: if you bought your travel insurance through them,

a) you have to contact their insurance partner directly (AXA).

b) AXA will only refund you 65% of the money paid.

c) AXA will only refund you that 65% AFTER TUI has refunded all of their own dues.

So presumably if TUI can stretch out delaying the holiday refund payment, then AXA can say it’s too late to cancel the policy.
 

Whilst on the subject of TUI, I saw the MD being interviewed on BBC Breakfast this morning. He was sunning himself at Lake Como, so I sent him a direct e-mail. Of course, it probably won’t even reach his inbox, but it was worth a try. The only message I have got from them so far arrived this afternoon and is effectively a repeat of their original 02.07.20 cancellation document, but now with today’s date! I wonder if they’re trying to defraud the system by unilaterally trying to change the start dates for their refund obligations? Frankly I haven’t got a clue because they don’t want to be contacted.

 

I think my recent action and another call to India may have paid off. The full refund is now in my bank account. Maybe just a coincidence, but relieved nonetheless.

[Kimbers]

Cyprus have now said it won't accept UK residents on holiday unless they have a valid negative Corona Virus test from no more than 3 days before they arrive. 

Jet 2 has since cancelled all flights to Cyrpus until mid August. 

Yet here we are saying we think Spain is a risk.....laughable really. We were worse than most countries put together!

[C8RKH]

There is another perspective @Kimbers.

If you are Spain, or Cyprus say, and you have generally lower rates of infection than the UK, why, would you want to open your country up to tourists from the UK, without pre-vetting and testing, to potentially travel and infect your citizens?

Of course, the honest answer is you would only want to do this if you valued the tourist pound more than the potential for increased infection rates and deaths amongst your own citizens.

So, the real question for me is, WTF is Spain doing letting us in? The decision is bordering on being immoral.

Thanks

[Kimbers]

I must admit, after spending a lot of time in Spain's tourist areas, even before COVID I wondered "Why are Spain letting us in?". The behaviour of some Brits is awful!

[C8RKH]

So you have never been to Ayia Nappa then? Some Brits should not be allowed to travel. End of.

[comem47]

There really has to be a mental and governmental skills set screening for Presidential candidates in the future. Trump believes too many reality TV situations (when it's to his advantage. ) He must have a stock position in hydroxychloroquine. which he continues to push after many in the Medical community have said it does nothing for Covid.19. This so called doctor is from planet 9 in her beliefs and we got Trump endorsing her?  

https://www.thedailybeast.com/stella-immanuel-trumps-new-covid-doctor-believes-in-alien-dna-demon-sperm-and-hydroxychloroquine

 

 

 

 

[Chillidoggy]

1 hour ago, comem47 said:

There really has to be a mental and governmental skills set screening for Presidential candidates in the future.

 

 

You’d need to consider the probability that none of the candidates would get past the screening.

[Clive59]

20 hours ago, ChrisJ said:

Makes me wonder if the lockdown had any effect whatsoever.

Not by much possibly. Your previous link, here: https://jbhandleyblog.com/home/2020/7/27/lockdownlunacythree

made for interesting statistics, and others have similar lines of thought. And the spike in Australia is probably seasonal too, so it will get worse before it improves. Sweden may well have been right and imposed much less damage on their people, both psychologically and economically. And how many people in UK have missed on being helped with other more serious medical issues, and hence shorten their life spans? Seems to have made it much worse for the majority rather than screen the minority and keep everything as normal as possible. If we had the mentality of staying at home if we have cold/flu symptoms, instead of soldiering on regardless, there may well be far less general spreading of corona viruses on the whole.

If a group of people on an Antarctica Research Station, after many weeks isolation suddenly have a serious outbreak of flu, what is the mechanism that caused that? How the hell can the world get rid of CV-19, it can't, and has to adapt, but in a realistic manner.