Emira Road Tests & Reviews

[LotusLeftLotusRight]

Great feedback. Seems like it really has moved things on from the Evora.

[jimichanga]

Lots of people on other forums think the opposite so I think it might take a bit more than one view from an Emira deposit holder to give that credibility. Each to their own of course but selling an Evora GT410 for an Emira makes no sense to me unless I always wanted a less focused, more daily useable all rounder with more modern interior and found myself owning an Evora by mistake.

[Bibs]

Lucky everyone is different and entitled to enjoy their own opinion!

[Barrykearley]

1 hour ago, jimichanga said:

Lots of people on other forums think the opposite so I think it might take a bit more than one view from an Emira deposit holder to give that credibility. Each to their own of course but selling an Evora GT410 for an Emira makes no sense to me unless I always wanted a less focused, more daily useable all rounder with more modern interior and found myself owning an Evora by mistake.

Have you actually seen it sat in an Emira?

I have - and by god they are incredible things. Who knows about the drive I wasn’t that lucky.

most of the online forums are full of folks who would never buy a car anyway or simply just watch the world pass them by waiting for something better.

 

me - I’ll wait for the i4 - and I’ll be owning one at some point no matter what.

[scotty435]

4 hours ago, jimichanga said:

Lots of people on other forums think the opposite so I think it might take a bit more than one view from an Emira deposit holder to give that credibility. Each to their own of course but selling an Evora GT410 for an Emira makes no sense to me unless I always wanted a less focused, more daily useable all rounder with more modern interior and found myself owning an Evora by mistake.

The 410 is not my first Evora and by far my first not my first Lotus having owned you could say more hardcore cars, including 250Cup, Exige 240 sprint, 135R Elise to name few. It was my honest opinion on the two cars and yes this drive was always going to be the deciding factor when weather I pulled my deposit and keep the 410 which as been a great car, you take whatever you want out off my review. But i like to think with the history off my car ownership I do have a understanding off the brand.

[PaulLee]

I had already cancelled my deposit for the Emira but went ahead with the test drive. I have an Evora GT410 Sport, Exige 350 with the Komotec 430 upgrade. I have also owned S2 Exiges with 260 and 280 upgrades. As mentioned the car looks stunning but it is no way a step up on the Evora. The dynamics are very similar but i was underwhelmed with the performance and muted sound of the exhaust. Everyone is different but this is my take on the Emira, the world would be a boring place if we all agreed with each other.

[scotty435]

Harry looks like he is enjoying his new Emira 2400 miles in a week 👏

 

[philnotts]

On 22/11/2022 at 20:29, PaulLee said:

I have an Evora GT410 Sport

Hey Paul, join the GT410 Sport club!? -  

 

 

[AK70]

Interesting discussion and views here from some well respected Lotus owners with different "reference cars". What I make out of it is, one must test drive the Emira to see whether it fits or not. Still like to see how it compares to a well sorted Evora S or 410 PhilSpec car driving wise (Feel, Brakes, Steering, Suspension).
Sadly no Emira will be delivered in 2022 in Switzerland and no test drive available either... Not sure about the Lotus sales "strategy".. 😉

 

[JB]

Reading many comments re the Emira nd the Evora, the Emira has not reinvented the wheel, it is not leaps and bounds better than an Evora, however it is less brash and easier to live with for the many and arguably is better looking than an Evora. Evora customers is probably not where Lotus is aiming at!

[jimichanga]

Less brash?! Not a word that has been associated with the Evora. Neither are they known for being impractical or difficult to live with, Emira looks less practical in some regards such as less luggage room and 2 seater only.

Just goes to show how much styling and hype matters for sports car sales. We still have no evidence from the factory or anywhere else that the Emira offers any improvement in performance over the 2015 Evora 400. The biggest change is styling inside and out and the results speak for themselves. In a more rational world they would have sold a lot more Evoras and a few less Emiras.

[Rambo]

51 minutes ago, JB said:

... however it is less brash and easier to live with for the many and arguably is better looking than an Evora. 

How do you know it's easier to live with?

And I would argue the contrary. I actually think the Evora is better looking than the Emira.

Edited November 28, 2022 by Rambo

[exeterjeep]

2 minutes ago, Rambo said:

And I would argue the contrary. I actually think the Evora is better looking than the Emira.

Agree on this, but it may be easier to live with than my car but no better than a 400/410 +2 ? Hope to have a go some time.

[JB]

1 hour ago, jimichanga said:

Less brash?! Not a word that has been associated with the Evora. Neither are they known for being impractical or difficult to live with, Emira looks less practical in some regards such as less luggage room and 2 seater only.

Just goes to show how much styling and hype matters for sports car sales. We still have no evidence from the factory or anywhere else that the Emira offers any improvement in performance over the 2015 Evora 400. The biggest change is styling inside and out and the results speak for themselves. In a more rational world they would have sold a lot more Evoras and a few less Emiras.

Less brash as in a more muted exhaust note. I don't think there is an improvement over the Evora in performance, but no where does it say there is. The Emira is (in manys eyes) a better looking all round car. As I have mentioned in other posts, if you have an Evora its not a huge step up, if you have an S3 Exige its not as involving, but this is not the customer base Lotus is aiming the car at, its F-Type, A110, Cayman, Corvette customer they want to get along with others

[JB]

1 hour ago, Rambo said:

How do you know it's easier to live with?

 

Because after many many test drives customers have said they can see it being easier to live with than an Evora that is sitting next to it in the showroom! I am just passing on info that I have been given by the people who have bought them, not those who haven't! 

The Evora IS NOT A BAD CAR, and i never said it was. They are similar but different and appeal to different people. But as @Bibscommented on another post fortunately we all like different things

[C8RKH]

The Emira is the latest shiny shiny bling and people buying one will of course think it is the best thing ever. And by the way, good for them. If it makes them happy then who cares?

I do find it funny that I have NOT SEEN one mention from an Emira deposit holder/buyer re the fact it is a +0. Whip me with a cracked leather whip (please, please do!|), BUT, some of those people so derided a +0 Evora as a car that they could NEVER own due to wife, kids, whatever.  Funny how shiny shiny new bling changes peoples minds/perceptions lol...

 

I'm still waiting for the Emira I4 shiny shiny Gold Cup 450 GT4RS Special - black carbon edition! Hopefully in Fire Red to sit next next to my uber exclusive 1 of 2 in the World Evora Sport 410!

 

[Rambo]

I've not heard from anyone who has test driven an Emira saying it will be easier to live with than an Evora.

Where are they all hiding?

[JB]

Probably because most are not current owners and don’t frequent lotus forums, but that’s a guess. But carry on your flippancy it’s most entertaining 

[C8RKH]

It's not flippancy, it's banter. And banter is good. Banter is the route to a happy life, even if you have an unhappy wife!

 

Who gives a shit if people "think" one is better/easier than t'other if they've never owned/driven t'other and in most cases haven't even owned/driven t'other they like?

 

It's like saying Kylie would be easier to live with than your missus, when all you've ever done is driven and lived with your missus, not Kylie! How'd you really know till you'd driven and lived with Kylie which one was truly the easiest to live with? And Kylie being so small, you could fit her and her sister Danni in the back of one, but not t'other! How's that for easy to live with?

 

Plus, the punters what came into the showroom, came in to see Kylie, not your missus, so no wonder they were smitten when they saw Kylie, and not your missus.

[scotty435]

1 hour ago, Rambo said:

I've not heard from anyone who has test driven an Emira saying it will be easier to live with than an Evora.

Where are they all hiding?

Not hiding here my review is on the previous page. 

[Whitey]

My test drive is on Thursday and I’ll be driving down in my Evora of 11 years and 40k miles and have had many Lotuses over the last 40 years. I’ll let you know what I honestly think after my test drive and if I see it as an additional £50k well spent or if I decide to cancel my Jan build car and keep my brilliant NA Evora longer. One thing I know already is that the Emira is easier to get into / out of than my NA. It will definitely be quicker, but will it be as fun…………… looking forward to Thursday👍

[tim_marra]

1 hour ago, C8RKH said:

It's like saying Kylie would be easier to live with than your missus, when all you've ever done is driven and lived with your missus, not Kylie! How'd you really know till you'd driven and lived with Kylie which one was truly the easiest to live with?

I reckon Kylie will be a total 'mare to live with. That said you still would wouldn't you? I bloody would 

[Dave Eds]

13 minutes ago, Whitey said:

My test drive is on Thursday and I’ll be driving down in my Evora of 11 years and 40k miles and have had many Lotuses over the last 40 years. I’ll let you know what I honestly think after my test drive and if I see it as an additional £50k well spent or if I decide to cancel my Jan build car and keep my brilliant NA Evora longer. One thing I know already is that the Emira is easier to get into / out of than my NA. It will definitely be quicker, but will it be as fun…………… looking forward to Thursday👍

 

Either way I'll take the one you decide you don't want....... 

[C8RKH]

8 hours ago, Whitey said:

One thing I know already is that the Emira is easier to get into / out of than my NA

To be fair the Evora 4xx cars are much easier than the S1. The Emira is lower roofline, iirc, so cannot see how it will be "easier" than a 4xx. Look forward to your honest review.

[Barrykearley]

Defo is easy to get in and out of @C8RKH - the sill is tiny in comparison. It’s like a normal slightly lower car to get in and out of. I was amazed. 
Wish I could have had a drive in it 🤣