What made you UNHAPPY today!

[jep]

I commute regularly to Fulham in the XJ6, 1973. Did so today. 340R is also ULEZ friendly. 

Brooklands is in Surrey so all fine. Ace Cafe has an issue though. 

Justin 

 

[DaveC72]

7 hours ago, C8RKH said:

ULEZ is a joke. It is a Labour City Mayor hitting the working classes the hardest. A complete joke to be honest.

Good intentions but very poor implementation and yet more of the "woke" populist approach. We need to do more to protect the environment and change our course, but it needs a more joined up approach and better planning around implementation. For instance, parking facilities to allow people to travel to the outer edge of the zone and then continue on zero emission integrated public transportation. As usual the policy has been implemented and people are then left hanging as the thought and infrastructure provision has not been done.

I'm not a fan of the ULEZ... but it was a Conservative initiative, introduced by Johnson and enforced by Schapps... just saying.

[pete]

Not to this extenr

[DaveC72]

True

[Bibs]

If the ULEZ was a clean air initiative, they'd just ban polluting cars from the zone. I'm pretty sure plenty of places in Europe do this already. 

As it goes, it's a money spinner and I doubt much of the £300m they expect from the first year will be spent on clean air programs.

[Chillidoggy]

11 hours ago, Bibs said:

If the ULEZ was a clean air initiative, they'd just ban polluting cars from the zone. I'm pretty sure plenty of places in Europe do this already. 

As it goes, it's a money spinner and I doubt much of the £300m they expect from the first year will be spent on clean air programs.

Absolutely correct. For example, you cannot take an Esprit in to Rouen, as I found out earlier this year. Khan’s faux pas on the other hand says, “It’s OK to pollute as long as you pay up.” 

[jep]

On reflection, if you're gonna clean up the air, best stop the regular use of vehicles deemed polluting, rather than ban those vehicles altogether. So I'd say Khan has it right, as it seems unreasonable to me that someone living in London with a non-compliant occasional use classic would be banned from driving it completely.

The charge is designed to pursued those regularly using 'dirty' vehicles to switch to 'cleaner' ones.

Happy days for VW et al, who lied and filled our roads with filthy diesels.

Justin 

[Escape]

In Bussels the LEZ is a barely disguised tax: you pay a 'fine' of €350 and you're allowed in for 3 months. So just a €1400/year additional tax. Suits me fine, still cheaper than having to buy a boring but compliant vehicle to drive to work. Other cities like Antwerp allow a limited number of day passes, but if you don't comply, the fine can be issued every day and the amount increases each time.

[Bibs]

Heating's on!!

[jep]

Lightweight 🙂

https://shop.thelotusforums.com/collections/mens/products/lotus-lightweight-jacket

 

[Escape]

I have one of these to keep me warm, so I don't need a heater in the Workshop:

[calvan]

45 minutes ago, Escape said:

I have one of these to keep me warm, so I don't need a heater in the Workshop:

I sincerely hope that you are not referring to the suit.

[Escape]

If it wasn't the overalls, it wouldn't fit the unhappy topic, would it? I do have a lovely young apprentice this summer, we'll see if she makes it through winter.

[pete]

Nick Freeman a road traffic lawyer says that ulez signs are illegal because they don't tell you any of the consequences. 

[ChrisJ]

Not only Nick Freeman - see my post last Tuesday.

[pete]

missed that aswas away but blocked from reading it anyway. as to the ulez cameras dont forget that there are also 20 mobile camera vans

[Chillidoggy]

Seems to have gone quiet on the ULEZ front.

[Gjk]

I’m a few grand out of pocket but happy I’m not paying that London mayor t**t £12.50 a day!

[pete]

On 29/08/2023 at 09:31, pete said:

So Heathrow is now in ulez😡

BBC News - Heathrow Airport plans Slough park-and-ride outside Ulez
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-berkshire-66758018

[Chillidoggy]

“disproportionately affects lower income employees and their families.”

At Heathrow Airport?

[pete]

Well sparky does fly from there

[C8RKH]

On 30/08/2023 at 08:38, jep said:

The charge is designed to pursued those regularly using 'dirty' vehicles to switch to 'cleaner' ones.

Problem is it hits the working classes very, very hard. They can little afford to pay the ULEZ nor do they have a few thousand lying around to buy a new car. It feels strange that a Labour (for the workers) party is hitting the very people it is supposed to fight for.

The middle classes in London don't give a shit, they'll pay it regardless and with relative ease and to chalk it down to a lifestyle expense.

[ChrisJ]

It is nothing to do with clean or dirty vehicles. I signed up yesterday just in case my Excel gets pinged so that I can see if I get pinged.The page is titled "London Road User Charging Account" - as once all the dirty vehicles are gone, all the cameras are in place for pay per mile.

I think I've found a route to get to my hockey club avoiding the cameras - am going to try it during the week. Will report back.

[pete]

Cancer patients face £12.50 ULEZ fee to visit 35 hospitals https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12496451/Cancer-patients-face-12-50-ULEZ-fee-doctor-Two-cameras-100-yards-Royal-Marsden-Hospital-edge-zone-TFL-reimburses-taxpayers-cash.html?ito=native_share_article-nativemenubutton

[Escape]

Same problem over here, with some major hospitals in Antwerp and Brussels now inside the LEZ.