Evora GT430

[Bibs]

 

[Guest hosscartwri]

Going back to posts of a couple of days ago, for what it is worth, I am rather pleased that my Evora GT410 Sport came with the glass panels as there are a couple of junctions around where I live which are much easier to move safely off from as a consequence of being able to see through these panels.

I totally agree with Spinney on the interior colour of cars - I find black roof lining, particularly when combined with black seats and dash etc. trim, rather oppressive and on dark miserable winter days cars so equipped can feel depressing no matter how epic the actual car. A combination of Jamie at B & C with Scott Walker at Lotus did a great job helping me with the interior and general spec of my car - though I still have the black roof lining! 

Btw - I recognise the A272 and the M3 from the GT430 Road Drive video but what/where are the other roads this was filmed on? 

 

[Kevin Wheeler]

 

3 hours ago, hosscartwri said:

Btw - I recognise the A272 and the M3 from the GT430 Road Drive video but what/where are the other roads this was filmed on? 

The early part is in the New Forest. The last part looks like Salisbury Plain. It also looks like my wife's Skoda!

[DarrylV8]

2 hours ago, Kevin Wheeler said:

 

The early part is in the New Forest. The last part looks like Salisbury Plain. It also looks like my wife's Skoda!

What she didn’t tell you!

[Guest hosscartwri]

On 31/07/2018 at 17:40, Kevin Wheeler said:

 

The early part is in the New Forest. The last part looks like Salisbury Plain. It also looks like my wife's Skoda!

Apologies for the delay in responding but thank you for the information.

[C8RKH]

On 29/07/2018 at 11:13, C8RKH said:

Also, the carbon ones are £520 each, so hardly cheap!

Just thought I'd go back to this and should have checked at the time.  There really is a lot "shite" spilled out at times about Lotus doing stuff to save cost, cost saving this, cost saving that.  Now that DeRoure has updated its part listings to include the 410/GT410/GT430 we can see that the standard glass is around £40, whereas the carbon original fitment in the 410 Sport is £440 ish plus vat.  

Would be good if we could actually get stuff confirmed before it is posted as defacto fact as often as it is, or even just make it clear you are passing an opinion, as to stating fact. Just saying...

 

[Spinney]

5 hours ago, C8RKH said:

Just thought I'd go back to this and should have checked at the time.  There really is a lot "shite" spilled out at times about Lotus doing stuff to save cost, cost saving this, cost saving that.  Now that DeRoure has updated its part listings to include the 410/GT410/GT430 we can see that the standard glass is around £40, whereas the carbon original fitment in the 410 Sport is £440 ish plus vat.  

Would be good if we could actually get stuff confirmed before it is posted as defacto fact as often as it is, or even just make it clear you are passing an opinion, as to stating fact. Just saying...

 

And all these years I've thought these things must be true 'cos they've been posted on t'internet.

[C8RKH]

8 minutes ago, Spinney said:

And all these years I've thought these things must be true 'cos they've been posted on t'internet.

HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA........ Sooo, true. 

[Techyd]

After market parts markup is pretty horrific as well, often several hundred percent(!) Something more specialist like the carbon fibre panels will be pricy whereas glass less so, none the less £40.00 to replace glass seems very cheap! I’ll take two!! Haha

My guess is that all the carbon bits were seen as a must have in the market place, it does lift the car and create presence so it’s a worthwhile outlay, but then the price hiked as well!

[tim_marra]

Yeah, what something costs to make and the price it is advertised at are very different. Not least fashion, trends, desirability, availability, etc. Just because Lotus charge a high price doesn't mean it costs so much to produce

[DarrylV8]

10 hours ago, C8RKH said:

Just thought I'd go back to this and should have checked at the time.  There really is a lot "shite" spilled out at times about Lotus doing stuff to save cost, cost saving this, cost saving that.  Now that DeRoure has updated its part listings to include the 410/GT410/GT430 we can see that the standard glass is around £40, whereas the carbon original fitment in the 410 Sport is £440 ish plus vat.  

Would be good if we could actually get stuff confirmed before it is posted as defacto fact as often as it is, or even just make it clear you are passing an opinion, as to stating fact. Just saying...

 

£440 + 20% = £528 to me that is £520ish

oh forgot to mention we didn’t pay any extra for the cf 1/4 panels as opposed to the glass panels go figure 

[geartox]

 

 

 

thanks for the video

 

is there a better way to start my holidays ?

 

[Bruss]

Geartox, thanks for that. Excellent video and it really gives the sense of the difference between the two cars.  

 

If anyone gets a chance I'd love to see a similar comparison between the 2 x Evora 430 with and without the downforce wing and aero slots.

 

 

[pete757]

Not sure you would notice much... 

Given Clift = 1/2pV2s... , the only variable here is V2... speed. 

Approximately... at 200 MPH in the GT430, we get 200Kg (196kg) downforce, so at 150 mph we get 100 kg and 100mph we get 25 kg.

Average speed in the corners would be say 100 mph... so the winged Evora GT would give us 25kg and lets say, the non winged/aero Evora, 0kg. 

I doubt 25kg over 2 rear wheels etc would make any difference... well no more than having a 100kg pax in the pax seat!

At the Indy '500 Oval' however, I am sure there would be a small difference if you could maintain 150 in the corners to get that 100kg!

It's good sales/bar talk however! 😄

[DarrylV8]

6 hours ago, Bruss said:

Geartox, thanks for that. Excellent video and it really gives the sense of the difference between the two cars.  

 

If anyone gets a chance I'd love to see a similar comparison between the 2 x Evora 430 with and without the downforce wing and aero slots.

 

 

We are soon to change the (full fat) tailgate for the Sport tailgate although we don’t anticipate videoing the 430 with both tailgate versions, if the drive is noticeable different Paul, we will certainly let you know; obviously the car will retain the front wing aero slots and front spoiler.

UPDATE ON THIS AWESOME CAR.

We can however confirm the auto box is a delight, the gear change when accelerating hard is silky smooth and linear and so very addictive.

we didn’t drive the car for the first week or so, in the last five weeks we have covered almost 2000M of faultless very enjoyable/entertaining driving with plenty of appreciation from all ages and drivers of some of Lotus cars rivals!

[Spinney]

I'd be interested to know how the Exige and Evora 430s fared with noise levels at Combe and Silverstone. My understanding was that both these cars wouldn't get through the sound checks with the standard exhaust. Gives me hope with using my new 410 on track if they were ok with it.

 

[DJW]

Interesting video.

Having just done Donny on Monday evening and by fluke finding a stiff setup on the suspension made the car feel remarkable in the fast corners right to the limit,  so would say the 430 Exige wasn’t setup right from watching the footage.  Would probably explain why you also felt you could go flat in the Evora in some sections vs Exige, but would also question unless you had the data was the Exige travelling faster at those points due to greater bhp per ton ?   All said the Ohlins are witch craft so who knows 

Re question on noise I managed to keep my 380 on track by short shifting at sound meters,, proven by a couple of full out laps where I got black flagged for 103db drive by

Need to get back to Lorus Silverstone and test drive the GT430 Evora 

[Bravo73]

1 hour ago, Spinney said:

I'd be interested to know how the Exige and Evora 430s fared with noise levels at Combe and Silverstone. 

Check the beginning of @The Pits's first GT430 track video. I think that he said that his car (with the titanium exhaust) was tested at 102dB static. (That is a lot less than 400/410 type cars).

[Spinney]

8 hours ago, Bravo73 said:

Check the beginning of @The Pits's first GT430 track video. I think that he said that his car (with the titanium exhaust) was tested at 102dB static. (That is a lot less than 400/410 type cars).

Ah ok thanks I must have missed that one. I didn't think the titanium exhaust was any quieter but I guess it must be. I'm thinking I might have to go for a 2bular exhaust - always assuming I can get hold of Jim that is! To be fair, I had no problem doing so with the setup I ordered from him for my last Lotus but I know others have had some difficulties.

I can only try.🙂

[TheKevlarKid]

On 15/08/2018 at 06:59, geartox said:

 

 

 

thanks for the video

 

is there a better way to start my holidays ?

 

Mr Pits, you need to be more consistent.  It wasnt 2yrs ago you were on here saying the Exige didn't need a diff, stock brake pads are great and Ohlins are a waste of money. You buy a car with all these things and now it needs them...  just saying

[NedaSay]

2 hours ago, TheKevlarKid said:

Mr Pits, you need to be more consistent.  It wasnt 2yrs ago you were on here saying the Exige didn't need a diff, stock brake pads are great and Ohlins are a waste of money. You buy a car with all these things and now it needs them...  just saying

In his defence 2 years ago the Exige did not have 430 bhp on tap...

[TheKevlarKid]

Power has nothing to do with it. If you push a 350 Exige hard on track you'd know yourself it would 'benefit' from a diff... Hell, push a 111R hard on track and you'll realise it needs a diff. 

They should all have a torsen diff as std imo.

 

[Bruss]

27 minutes ago, TheKevlarKid said:

Power has nothing to do with it. If you push a 350 Exige hard on track you'd know yourself it would 'benefit' from a diff... Hell, push a 111R hard on track and you'll realise it needs a diff. 

They should all have a torsen diff as std imo.

 

Heresy!!!!

 

( I may have had a torsen in my S1)

 

 

 

[jonnyboy]

Most people wouldn't benefit from a lsd you need to be able to drive on the throttle.  If you drive with the traction control off and are getting frustrated with corner exits then get one. If you use race mode or leave the TC on its doubtful you will notice any difference.  

[Gashead1105]

Having now watched the video, I think @The Pitswill be spending some more money as soon as he can justify it to himself...