Turn signal stalk and wiper stalk on wrong side

[cschriks]

Can I switch the turn signal stalk on an LHD Esprit S1 to the left side of the steering wheel and the wiper stalk to the right side? What happened here? Seen a few Esprit S1’s where they have switched sides. Can it be reversed?

[jonwat]

8 hours ago, cschriks said:

Can it be reversed?

I did it on my S3, you'll need to drill a hole in order to move the roll pin that cancels the indicator.

[Escape]

I did it on my Excel and Esprit Turbo SE. Easy enough, but obviously the icons are upside down now.

In my case, it was the other way around, to the RHS in a RHD car. I found this more logical to operate and was used to it from my RHD Triumph. I understand it was standard practice to have the indicator on the outside in cars up to the late 70s, so different RHD and LHD. Afterwards the indicators are always on the left, as in a LHD?

[mik]

42 minutes ago, Escape said:

I understand it was standard practice to have the indicator on the outside in cars up to the late 70s, so different RHD and LHD. Afterwards the indicators are always on the left, as in a LHD?

I think it is still region dependent?

My 2009 Vauxhall VXR8 (which is a essentially a (terribly) re-badged Holden Special Vehicles Commodore Clubsport) was RHD but had the indicator stalk on the RHS. It takes a long time to re-train your muscle memory - to stop signaling with your wipers - and just as long to train it back again when you sell the car..... 🥴

[Escape]

Surprised to hear abut the Holden. Maybe the Aussies are sticking to their logic, because there isn't much export?

All the RHD Lotus, Land Rover, Jaguar, TVR, ... from UK I've ever driven (or looked at in detail) had the indicator stalk on the left, just like a LHD, except those from before 1980.

[ChrisJ]

• Esprit - 1982, wipers on the left
• Excel - 1989, wipers on the right
• Mitsubishi Pajero hired in Zambia, wipers on the left - 2006ish imported 2nd hand from Japan.

Everything else wipers on the right.

[EXCEL V8]

I'm replacing my stalks with ones from an early Excel for the same reason - indicators on the right in my Elite.  I just know that I'll turn the wipers on repeatedly when I want to turn!!

Pete

[cschriks]

Does anyone know the cross reference on the indicator and wiper switches of a 77 Esprit S1?

[drdoom]

Are they not the same switches fitted through all the earliest cars? 

 

[williamtherebel]

My 1977 federal Esprit S1 has the same stalks as my 1976 UK Eclat. They are from Triumphs from the same era.

[williamtherebel]

[cschriks]

On 19/03/2024 at 09:47, jonwat said:

I did it on my S3, you'll need to drill a hole in order to move the roll pin that cancels the indicator.

Did you use the same parts? Can you show or tell me where the hole should be and how big? Much appreciated!

[jonwat]

4 hours ago, cschriks said:

Did you use the same parts?

Yes

 

4 hours ago, cschriks said:

Can you show or tell me where the hole should be ?

It was a very long time ago so no, not really but it will be pretty obvious where to drill.

 

4 hours ago, cschriks said:

how big?

Same size as the existing hole the roll pin is in