Exhaust manifold design test result..

[Gasman GT3]

By my calculation that's 11?   Also arn't people getting confused between N/A (no turbo) and Carbed Turbo.  Obviously the N/A one will be different but shouldn't the carb turbo be the same?

 

Just thought what would the cost of a bypass pipe or sports cat be?

Edited January 24, 2013 by gasmangt3

[MarkKassim]

Hi Adrian, yes your wright , I thought Steve was talking about a non turbo car. I think the carb turbo does use the same manifold.

May be dave can help.

[red vtec]

Adrian the Early carbed turbos including the early stevens shape have a two part manifold.

[bzsport350]

Count me in as well. Definitely an upgrade that i am looking for. I am connecticut USA. What about jet coating the headers? Do you think it will make any difference? Thanks, billy

[Mike6]

Chris

 

Mine is the early Stevens carb turbo and pretty sure it is one piece up to the turbo. When I stripped mine down I dont recal there being an intermediate unit.

[red vtec]

Hi Mike

 

Mine has the two piece setup, but mine is a very early car Dec 87

 

Just looked at the parts manual, there are 4 variants.

 

An N/A manifold

 

a Turbo two part with an internal wastegate US cars

 

a Turbo two part with an external wastegate  UK carb Non Charge cooled

 

and a Turbo one piece with an external wastegate. Charge cooled cars

 

I believe the last two can be replaced by the one Dave "Changes" has developed

Edited January 24, 2013 by red vtec

[jfitz981]

I am definitely interested...if I did my calculations correctly...I am looking at about $1200USD...my wife just got me my birthday gift early!

Edited January 24, 2013 by jfitz981

[MikieP]

It cost me a total of 1575 USD, $35 of which was my cost for getting a wire transfer of $1540 from my bank to his. I was quoted and sent $1540 USD that also included apparently 90BP (~$144) shipping cost to Maryland, USA, quite higher than anything quoted so far in this forum. Something wrong with someone's numbers here.

I was also told mine would count as part of the possible group buy if there were enough members here to get to ten units, counting mine, and would I talk it up in as many forums as I could, which I did, both here and in Lotus Talk.

Therefore, I have paid approximately 963BP, including shipping to Maryland for this item. Is this correct?

Edited January 24, 2013 by MikieP

[Bibs]

Sounds like you've paid UK tax. Can some please clarify the VAT situation before this continues. I assume the company is VAT registered so anyone outside of the EU will not be paying UK taxes.

[CHANGES]

Hi all

Just to clarify here, this manifold can replace the ones used with a turbo incorporating an internal

waste gate be it one or two piece,  The ones who have an external waste gate will require a different 

turbo and a few other changes to make it fit....

[MarkKassim]

Yes, it would be helpful if someone could post the pricing without VAT for the US guys and others who are interested and not subject to VAT.

 

Jim

 

 Hi all sorry i did not get back sooner but had to confirm with Alunox what the VAT

situation was... As it stands for people outside the EU there will be no VAT included..

This will mean the price for those people outside the EU is £710.00 GBP.. plus shipping.

It also looks like we are reaching the required number so those who defiantly want one

put your name down now before the offer closes..

 

Thank you

 

Mark

[MikieP]

Mark,

So I am owed quite a bit of money since I paid quite a bit more than 760BP (~963GBP (~$1136.00 plus some 90GBP shipping) as I was told I would be counted in the group buy if one could be gotten together as you and I have now? Even if the 90 BP shipping cost stands (since the highest shipping quoted being 60GBP and being the shortest distance quoted), I am still owed at least $170 then? Plus, even at 60GPB shipping what I should see back would amount to around $228 or 143GBP?

MikieP

Edited January 24, 2013 by MikieP

[MarkKassim]

Hi Mike,just spoke with Leon, he going to refund the Vat, he has sent you a mail, I was copied in. Sorry for mix up.

He has incurred back costs his end ,he wasn't expecting. We will look into the best way off paying as many of are asking how to pay.

Thanks Mark.

[gixxer]

Hi Mark.

An update.

I talked to my friend in Thailand.

He's says to book ONE definitely!

NOT Three.

If you have any difficulty in reaching him (he travels a lot), deal with me.

I'll be happy to cover for him moneywise.

So---

ONE for gixxer.

ONE for Thailand.

Thanks,

Brian

[ramjet]

I've a couple of questions I am hoping can be answered before I make up my mind.

 

1) What sort of life have people seen out of their cast manifolds before a failure? In km's or miles preferably. (Like I said, mine is currently fine, but who knows how long 'till that bubble bursts?)

 

2) Would the warranty go from time of fitment (unreasonable to expect) or time of purchase? Also, how do we cover warranty in Australia or the US? Return to place of purchase?

 

3) I may have missed something in reading, but how long has anyone had one of these on their vehicle? Other stainless manifolds on here seem to have had problems fairly soon after being fitted.

 

Thanks

[CHANGES]

I've a couple of questions I am hoping can be answered before I make up my mind.

 

1) What sort of life have people seen out of their cast manifolds before a failure? In km's or miles preferably. (Like I said, mine is currently fine, but who knows how long 'till that bubble bursts?)

 

2) Would the warranty go from time of fitment (unreasonable to expect) or time of purchase? Also, how do we cover warranty in Australia or the US? Return to place of purchase?

 

3) I may have missed something in reading, but how long has anyone had one of these on their vehicle? Other stainless manifolds on here seem to have had problems fairly soon after being fitted.

 

Thanks

Hi Michael,

I will try and answer these for you..

1) The original vary. some go 20+ years, others look good but have cracks when

     inspected.  some scale away depending on climate ,its and age and use thing.

     Replacement none Lotus cast don't seem to last that long at all generally failing

     at 5 years depending on use and climate.

 

2) The guarantee will be from purchase date for obvious reasons..Usually if a fault

    occurs you return the product to the manufacturer for repair or replacement regardless

    of where you are... The manufacturer will have there own terms and conditions...

 

3) I have had no problems with my stainless manifolds and chose to try this unit partly due

    to its design incorporating the double slip joints . This as i said in the test report should 

    elevate stress flex which is partly the cause of crack failure. the other point is this is

    a 321 Stainless construction which far exceeds the 304 which most people have used in

    the past. 304 by it nature will break down and eventually fail on turbo application, if used

    aggressively will fail in a very short time.. 

    As with anything life expectancy depends on usage, no data is available on these yet as

    its a new design , The prototype Mark has used for quite a while with no issues and its

    design does not have slip joints and is very rigid. It all looks very favourable and i feel

    confident in it for my use which exceeds what most will do...Also don't forget that unlike

    the cast unit they are very serviceable as the years go by..

 

Dave 

[ramjet]

Thanks Dave. Appreciate the answers.

 

Michael.

[MarkKassim]

Hi all,

 

A new development has arisen in the material cost. Alunox on ordering new 321

stainless stock were shocked at the price rise from their supplier. This does not

change things at present as they have enough stock to honour the group buy price

up to a quantity of 15... but anything over that would make a business loss .

So because of this development and as we already have the initial 10 required we 

will proceed to take orders with payment straight away. This will mean the first 15

payments will receive a confirmation of order, Then the manifold as soon as production

and despatch completed. 

Sorry more of you can not take advantage of this offer, but the manifold will still be

available as a one of purchase at the revised new pricing , yet to be confirmed.

 

  1.sailorbob - definite

  2.gasmangt3 - definite

  3.v39 - definite

  4.Neill1607 - definite

  5.gixxer - definite

  6.Thailand1 Covered by Gixxer - Definate

  7.Trevor - definite

  8.Billy Zissis - definate

  9.Paul X180R17 - Definate

10.jfitz981 Jason - Definate

 

So first come first confirmed. Can everyone on the list PM me there home address with post codes so Alunox can price individually with shipping costs more accurately. Then I will return to each person with the total amount payable in each case, along with Leons bank details so you can perform a bank transfer.

Once all the payments are in, work will begin , I've been told to expect 5 weeks before delivery.

Thanks Mark

Edited January 25, 2013 by MarkKassim

[miket]

Can you put me on the list for one as well Mark.

 

Thanks,Mike

[snowrx]

PM'd you for one

[sanj]

PM sent

[MarkKassim]

Hi all, I have recieved allot of PMs in the last day or so for this group buy. I think we are very close now to the 15 . Basically people on the list are fine , I'm trying sort out the last 5 , I will be talking to Leon later and will keep you updated. Mark

[sailorbob]

Good stuff, thanks for all your efforts putting this together and persevering with this 

[Gasman GT3]

Yep I second that Derek,  great effort and now cant wait to get mine.

[fjmuurling]

Hi Mark,

 

I would like to have one as well hope I'm not to late. PM send.

 

Freek