New tyres

[Giniw]

On 31/08/2019 at 23:58, Jacques said:

Toyo Proxes Tr1

Do you think they make their tyre names confusing on purpose?! TR1, T1R, T1S, T1 Sport ... Oo

[Jacques]

Well, if only... But 415Nm that is. A fair amount.

Yes, I think it's not very clear, an deasy to order wrong tires as well.

Kind regards,

Jacques

[andyblackman777]

Thought I’d get the thread going again. 
front tyres seem very limited now. Maybe Yokohama advan AD08 the only decent one but it’s a track oriented tyre. 
I was thinking of running 245 40 17 instead of the 235 40 17. Gives a better choice of tyre. 
has anyone done this?

cheers. 

[andyblackman777]

I found this from  

https://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre-Size/17-Inch-Tyres/235-40-17-Tyres.htm

 

[andyblackman777]

Falken FK 510 ?? You can get a matching set!!

[Mightymetro]

I went for the Nankang NS2R tyres Andy and they feel really good.  Good grip even in the wet and also great tread pattern looking on the wide rears from behind.  They seem quite predictable and can break traction at will at the rear (bit of throttle pedal 😂)  but in a controlled way .

 

downside is they are pretty noisy and they are really really stiff on the sidewall 

[Chillidoggy]

On 06/07/2020 at 12:43, andyblackman777 said:

I found this from  

https://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre-Size/17-Inch-Tyres/235-40-17-Tyres.htm

 

Presumably this chart is made up of personal viewpoints rather than any empirical data. So to me, unless it’s Max Verstappen or some other decent driver carrying out the testing it makes me wonder how accurate it is. It’s possible most would be able to tell the difference between the top rated tyres and the bottom rated ditchfinders, but I’d question whether some owners would notice the difference without back-to-back testing. I’ve long thought there should be a standard test for tyres in the dry and wet, and I used to go by the treadwear figure as a broad interpretation. By that, if it says ‘Treadwear 30’, as I’ve seen on some competition tyres, you might get a few hard laps of Margate town square in before they expire. Conversely, if it says 220, they’re gonna last considerably longer, but may not grip as well. As it happens, I bought PZeros for the rear, and Neova for the fronts and to be brutally honest, I can’t tell the difference between those and the previous Michelin Pilots which were a few years old. The hardest job is, as has been said, is finding the correct size tyre all round. I found the front Pirelli’s impossible to find last time, hence the Yokohama’s. 

 

[OwenGT3]

I fitted Falken FK453 Tyres on mine, all round. Not too bad a price from what I can remember, about £100 - 120 a corner.

[petecov]

I had a good experience with NT05's. These nitto tires are very predictable and sticky. They have adequate traction in the wet and are smooth on pavement. Having a short tread life is the only con I can say.

[TBD]

So what is the 2022 view on new tires for the Esprit V8? 

It seems few tire makers have matching sets of 235/40R17 and 185/35R18 sizes any more. How many have exchanged the 235/40R17 for the more widely available 245/40R17?

And, which manufacturers have the same tire in both sizes?

 

[Giniw]

Indeed there were still some Toyo a couple of years ago but they seem to have disappeared!

I can't see much available on 123pneu.fr either for instance 😕 (=delti in other countries if I understand well)

[andyblackman777]

Falken FK510 Azenis are available in both sizes, don't know if they are any good

 

[Kevin Wheeler]

@OwenGT3 might have an opinion on Falkens - having fitted them two years ago!

[andyblackman777]

And..........

[Tim H]

Hi,

 

I have had Falkens fitted on the front for some years, I have been highly satisfied with them especially the wear rate,  grip and steering feel is good in the dry, I have been satisfied with them in the wet. 

[Giniw]

Apparently the Toyo Proxes Sport exists in the Non USA S4s/V8 sizes: https://www.toyotires.fr/tire/pattern/proxes-sport

But it seems it's not that easily available in the right size on the usual websites.

[andyblackman777]

Cheers Tim. I think I'll go with them, gotta be better than the 20 year old tyres that are on there!!!

I also notice that the Yokohama Advan neova AD08R is available in some countries in the rear size so you could get a matching set of those but there not cheap!!

 

[Giniw]

Is it?! In 285/35?

edit:

It's not listed in 285/35/18 though?

https://www.yokohamatire.com/tire-search/by-size/235/40/17

https://www.yokohamatire.com/tire-search/by-size/285/35/18

 

 

Edited July 22, 2022 by Giniw

[TBD]

Anyone have experience with the Nanking NS-2R https://www.nankang-tyre.com/en/product/detail/2

THey seem to be available in the proper sizes. 

[Mightymetro]

I am running NS2r tyres and they have been really good.  They are quite noisy but grip has been very good.  Normal driving in wet is ok but you have to have your wits about you 

[tomcattom]

Got a set on my S4s and not really noticed the noise, but then I only did the 70 mile journey home from buying the car on the 20 year old rock hard rubber before fitting the Nankangs, so probably wouldn't notice the noise after that!

I'd echo what @Mightymetro said about driving in the wet with them. They'll get you home safely if in the wet if you understand the type of tyre they are drive accordingly in the conditions.

[Chillidoggy]

3 hours ago, tomcattom said:

Got a set on my S4s and not really noticed the noise, but then I only did the 70 mile journey home from buying the car on the 20 year old rock hard rubber before fitting the Nankangs, so probably wouldn't notice the noise after that!

I'd echo what @Mightymetro said about driving in the wet with them. They'll get you home safely if in the wet if you understand the type of tyre they are drive accordingly in the conditions.

What’s the Treadwear figure on the tyres?

[tomcattom]

According to the Nankang website it's 180  @Chillidoggy. However I'm sure there were two compounds when I bought mine, but only mention of one compound on their site that I can see right now.

I'll pop out to the garage shortly and check what's on the sidewalls of my tyres. I know I went with the harder compound because the car is mostly used on road.

[Chillidoggy]

7 minutes ago, tomcattom said:

According to the Nankang website it's 180  @Chillidoggy. However I'm sure there were two compounds when I bought mine, but only mention of one compound on their site that I can see right now.

I'll pop out to the garage shortly and check what's on the sidewalls of my tyres. I know I went with the harder compound because the car is mostly used on road.

 

180 is pretty soft. Looking at the tread pattern, I suspect they're "fun" if it's wet!

[tomcattom]

I couldn't find any markings about treadwear on the sidewall, but from bit of searching on the web, the softer compound NS2R was apparently 120.