Evora market watch, for discussion and to help those searching!

[jep]

1 hour ago, Ezzer said:

Good to hear about Bell and Colvill being well regarded. How were they on negotiations? 

I cannot say I negotiated very hard on my Evora. The 1 year warranty was a large attraction to me, knowing I would do 10000 miles+. I wanted the car as it has cocobolo leather with carbon grey coachwork which I found very fetching. I basically asked what the best was, which was attractive compared to other cars for sale given the warranty; and said yes. 

I did not even drive it! However, I have driven a few before and since, all thanks to Jamie at Bell Colvill. I am sure he will let you enjoy an extended test drive. 

You will get great back-up from them. The owner Andy loves his dealership and the staff love Lotus. Most have been there for years. They don't feel like a main dealer....that is a compliment as most main dealers for any marque make me feel ill. 

Justin 

[internets]

+1 for Jamie at Bell and Colvill he is vary fair in my experience and will work to get you a good deal but at the end of the day he has, of course, overheads to meet so can only go so far. He is very accommodating in making sure the car meets your requirements.

My old Evora is up for sale there with a red interior which is lovely IMHO. There is also a very nice black Evora 410 which would be worth considering although it’s slightly more money.

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/lotus/evora/lotus-evora-sport-410--5-9-apr-finance-available-with-this-car--------------2016/7612933

@jep is this your Evora ?

[Ezzer]

Thanks all, good advice and info. Yes, will definitely let you know how I get on.  

I did look at the 410 sport at Bell and Colvill but unlikely to work for me as a) I'm after a daily drive so more road than track b) the carbon seats sound like they fit you perfectly or they don't - no half ways c) that car was a media demo car and there are many fine video's of it going sideways. It looks like the normal delta between a 400 and a 410 sport is around £10k. But if I do visit Bell and Colvill I will take a look at it and check out the seats.

Simon

 

[PaulCP]

2 hours ago, Gashead1105 said:

Big fan of the red leather interior in mine. It doesn't photo well but it's lovely in reality. 

^^^^^ this ^^^^^ 👍👍

[jep]

For road use, I think 400 ideal. I drove a 410 and I found it a bit jiggly. So PLEASE drive before you buy...ignoring wot I gonna dun! 

Justin 

PS. I will now get slated by 410 owners. 

[Ezzer]

OK - OK - I'm feeling the overwhelming love for the red interior from you all. So will keep an open mind until I see it in the flesh. 

Any suggestions for things to look out for? I've heard about the squeaky seats (with the semi-fix), and ignore the lowish quality audio. What else? Looks like the car at Bell & Colvill has been with them well over six months - could be closer to 12. 

Simon

[jep]

1 hour ago, internets said:

+1 for Jamie at Bell and Colvill he is vary fair in my experience and will work to get you a good deal but at the end of the day he has, of course, overheads to meet so can only go so far. He is very accommodating in making sure the car meets your requirements.

My old Evora is up for sale there with a red interior which is lovely IMHO. There is also a very nice black Evora 410 which would be worth considering although it’s slightly more money.

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/lotus/evora/lotus-evora-sport-410--5-9-apr-finance-available-with-this-car--------------2016/7612933

@jep is this your Evora ?

Yep, that is my motor. Now on L400 TYP. Such a wonderful weapon, one of the best cars I have ever owned. Never to be sold, life permitting. 

Where was this snap taken? 

Justin 

[jep]

11 minutes ago, Ezzer said:

Any suggestions for things to look out for? I've heard about the squeaky seats (with the semi-fix), and ignore the lowish quality audio. What else? Looks like the car at Bell & Colvill has been with them well over six months - could be closer to 12. 

Market was very quiet in 2019. That changed on 13 December, I have no idea why. Dealers sold quite a few cars on that Friday.

I would not concern yourself too much about a Lotus hanging around on the forecourt. It is the nature of the beast in a specialist area of car sales. On the rare occasion I sell a Lotus, it can take a while and then usually two want it at the same time. 

Justin 

[internets]

@jep I took that picture at B@C out in their back car park when they first got the car back in 2014, and I test drove it. Jamie managed to sell me a white Evora S instead  Did very much like the Cocobolo Interior.

I believe it was an ex management car, driven by  one Martin Donnelly  I remember it came back in to B&C a few years later and assume that’s when you brought it

took these pictures at the time too...

 

 

[jep]

@internets great, thanks so much for these pics. You are a Santa.

Yep, Martin D did have the car first, which appeals to me (though I had no idea when I bought it in March 2018) as I am a bit of a Lotus anorak and do love a car with some factory connection. I have a S1 Elise, the first owner was Julian Thomson, so the Evora fits right in on that score. 

Apparently, my Evora is on its original clutch, now at 63,000 miles, so a bit of factory work does not seem to have done it any harm. It drives like new, appears quite rapid for 276bhp and the carbon grey is just such a neat colour. According to the book 'Sublime Supercar', it is the colour that the designers most favoured. I am not sure the cocobolo wins such an accolade but I love it. Mind you, I had a S1 Esprit with the brown cabin (and loved that).

Justin

[PAR]

Wasnt there a story that Julian t. Tried to buy the car back but could not?

 

[jep]

17 minutes ago, PAR said:

Wasnt there a story that Julian t. Tried to buy the car back but could not?

 

I don't think so. He sold the car after 18 months or so, as he had no time to use it. It stayed with same owner 'til 2017, when I bought it. 

Julian bought a 160 S1 in I think 2016, having decided, to use his words 'I should own the car I take the blame for'. 

Julian still has his Dino 246, which he has owned since 1985.....the view of the front wing influenced the Elise and you can see that every time you perch in an S1. 

Justin 

[fillpoke]

Hi Folks,

I've been looking for an Evora for what seems like ages and this one has cropped up not too far away from me. Just wondering if anyone knows anything about the car and could perhaps advise me. Also it's done quite a lot of miles. What do you think?

Thanks,

Dave

 

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/lotus/evora/lotus-evora-122-v6-sports-racer-4-2013/10032381

[trcm]

Looks like a beaut!

[scotty435]

Sorry I don’t know anything about this particular car, but looks a great price for a sports racer and yes high on mileage but wouldn’t worry me seeing it’s had a clutch change, it’s a NA so cheaper on tax and insurance and in some people minds a better car than a S. Is 65k high mileage not in this day and age? People buy other high performance cars with similar mileage and they are not probably as reliable as a Lotus and cost a lot more to repair.

[jep]

My Evora has done similar mileage and drives like new. 

Sports Racers were fully loaded so it wants for nothing. Clutch done in 2018, which is the only likely big bill on an Evora.

I don't know the car or the owner but it reads well. Price seems attractive too.

Justin  

[Giveitfish]

Hi Dave, it's mine 😀 I think we've already swapped emails so I'll keep it brief and not spam this thread as a seller!

I love it to bits, I was only supposed to keep it a year but that was over 18 months ago. I've used it every day and also been to Le Mans, Scotland, and toured Europe including the Route Napoleon and Swiss Alps as well as briefly touching 147mph on the Autobahn. It's great.

It was my only car until just before Christmas but now I've gone back to having a "normal" car and hopefully I'll get an Elise again for weekends in the future. I've dropped the price to one I think is pretty keen as I'd like to move it on before spring comes around.

 

[C8RKH]

On 24/12/2019 at 15:34, Gashead1105 said:

Big fan of the red leather interior in mine. It doesn't photo well but it's lovely in reality. 

@ColinP has a lovely motorsport green 400 with the red leather. I see it for a few days every year when we go to the IoM and it never fails to make me just go "wow". It gets used by Colin but always looks superb and the MSG / Red combo has to be THE best out there for a 400, closely followed by Essex Blue and Red Interior, like the ones @CocoPops and @PaulCP had. Also lovely cars.

[C8RKH]

On 24/12/2019 at 18:44, jep said:

PS. I will now get slated by 410 owners. 

Not by this one. Your advice is right and spot on, try before you buy.

Although having said that I didn't and went straight from my 2010 NA to a new 410 without test driving it or even being in a 400!  Not disappointed at all. Love the car. Does exactly what I want it to do. It's not yet been on track (I have a SC VX220 for that). And when I pull the cover off and all that lovely carbon fibre winks at me, my knees just melt. To me it's a 400 on steroids and more alert, alive. As it's not a DD, just a toy, it's perfect for me and my demands for it.

I don't believe Lotus have made a "bad" Evora car.  NA, S, 400, 410 Sport, GT410 and GT430/Sport - all absolutely stonking cars. All slightly different characters. Hmmm, just like Lotus owners really!

[Ezzer]

On 24/12/2019 at 13:23, Ezzer said:

Hi All,

Looking at used Evora 400's in the new year (present to myself). It would be great to get any views from the experts on this forum. These three seem to be the best bets so far.

1. Hendy - https://www.hendy.co.uk/lotus/used-cars/lotus-evora-evora-400-aetv37745108/

2. Bell & Colvill - https://www.bellandcolvill.co.uk/approved-used/lotus-evora-400_yo65-chd

3. Williams in Bristol - https://www.williamsautomobiles.com/current-stock/9976810-lotus-evora-400-2-2/

They are all around the same age (Sep 2015 to march 2016), mileage (13,000 to 16,000) and specification (leather, black pack, etc). Looks like they have the forged wheels. So the spec is near identical other than external and internal colors (and yes, red interior is a personal taste). 

Clearly they have been sitting on the forecourt a while. The Bell and Colvill & Williams ones have no increase in mileage since MOT's 10+ months ago). The Hendy one has 1500 miles in a year! 

So would love to hear your views on these three. Feel free to private message me if there is anything helpful you would prefer not to post on a public forum

Cheers

Simon

Hi All,

I'm back and with an Evora 400 (to join my Honda s2000 and Caterham R400)! Thanks for all the advice. You were right about the red interior colour - it's dark enough and mixed with black bits to look great. Ended up buying the Silver one from Bell & Colvill. Great guys and good to know they are my local dealer.

Simon

[marcfair]

Nice one! 

[jep]

https://themarket.co.uk/listings/lotus/evora-gte/e83f4e4a-c045-43a2-b5c3-a063c017ff8e

GTE sold for just shy of £70K

Justin

 

[LotusLeftLotusRight]

Keep up at the back. That was posted in the GTE thread on 21.11.19. It’s gone to Komo-Tec, Germany and presumably on to a new owner from there.

[jep]

13 minutes ago, LotusLeftLotusRight said:

Keep up at the back. That was posted in the GTE thread on 21.11.19. It’s gone to Komo-Tec, Germany and presumably on to a new owner from there.

Fair enough...…..I had not seen that and thought it was good value, no wonder Komo-Tec bought it.

Justin

[Bravo73]

1 hour ago, jep said:

GTE sold for just shy of £70K

I think that was the hammer price. Auctioneers fees etc need to be added for the final, actual price.