Coronavirus

[windymiller]

well not exactly paranoid but big brother watches more intently at least !! just wait for the big reset lol then were in bother !! 😒

[Colin P]

Grabbed a coffee from one of those vans on my daily walk last week. Asked if they wanted card or cash (considering low value and charges) to get the answer that card is preferable. Seems odd. Cash always used to be preferred for small businesses and low value as the money stays in the pocket of the vendor and not the banks.

[windymiller]

yes we get people paying for things in dads farm shop with a card to the value of say £2.40 etc just havent got a bean on them 🙄 and its not out of the question that the card reader goes down then !!!🙄

[andydclements]

31 minutes ago, Colin P said:

Grabbed a coffee from one of those vans on my daily walk last week. Asked if they wanted card or cash (considering low value and charges) to get the answer that card is preferable. Seems odd. Cash always used to be preferred for small businesses and low value as the money stays in the pocket of the vendor and not the banks.

For some retailers cash is fine because they can use it in turn to pay for business costs, but any they cannot use it then have to have a way to deposit it at a  bank. that's a PITA because banks may be open only at the times their own business operates so the retailer has to take time out to deposit the cash, let alone some physical challenges such as parking nearby, and then the retailer has to pay a fee to the bank for cash handling.  As card payment fees get smaller, the use of cards gets more attractive for the retailers. This all assumes that businesses deposit and account for all cash received,  I'll not speculate on that.

[Chillidoggy]

It’s hard enough to to find a bank that I can pay money into round here. There’s been so many closures, I now have to travel about 6 miles whereas a few years ago, I could walk to one in the town in about ten minutes.

Due to covid, I can see cash disappearing faster than originally envisaged.

[andydclements]

Lots of people don't realise that they can pay cash to their normal bank account at a Post Office. I know Post Offices are disappearing as well, but there's normally at least one in each town.

[windymiller]

actually we had this issue with paying in cash at hsbc then i suggested the local post office which im sure is a good thing for the small local branch, good shout andy

[mayevora]

On 20/05/2021 at 22:51, windymiller said:

so the pub earlier tonight still not accepting cash ? yet they pick up your knives and forkes etc youve just used ? same thing just wash hands after contact with anything !!! cash is king ? 🙄 (even the pharmacy at my doctors takes cash !!!)

I had that slight issue last week after I had had 2 pints and table service I went to settle my bill and was ask for my card. I only ever have cash on me - sorry I said but take it or leave it - it’s all I’ve got lol.

[Clive59]

This doesn't encourage me.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33113270/

[mg4lotus]

@Clive59 I wouldn't worry too much about it if I was you

Bullshit Ability as an Honest Signal of Intelligence - PubMed (nih.gov)

[Clive59]

Gold, was it published on April 1st?

 

[mg4lotus]

This one was published on April 4th, is that close enough?

'You can't bullshit a bullshitter' (or can you?): Bullshitting frequency predicts receptivity to various types of misleading information - PubMed (nih.gov)

Sorry, misread it, published on Feb 4th 😄

Edited May 23, 2021 by mg4lotus

[Clive59]

8 hours ago, mg4lotus said:

I wouldn't worry too much about it if I was you

So is that supposed to help?

The NIH isn't a crackpot conspiracy site, it is a US government funded organisation to the tune of over $40 billion.

My original statement holds I believe.

 

 

[mg4lotus]

I didn't see any science there. It appears anybody can post any BS on there that they want.

If it's of no help to you it might be of help to others.

Don't take my word for it, use your own eyes.

[Clive59]

It is a Perspective article (available from within the extract page), I assume it is meant to be something digestible by a wider audience than focused experts. Intended for a professional audience, eg: doctors, of whom one showed it to me.

It is peer reviewed, so should pass the BS filter

It references 20 papers, which are based on science.

If you choose to ignore  @mg4lotus, fine, but others may have differing opinions.

 

 

[andydclements]

on quick scan it appears however written about when the vaccine(s) were in trial stages, that the volunteers for the trials should be made aware that the (unproven at that time) vaccine could have unknown consequences. Not written from the perspective that the vaccine which has completed the necessary clinical trials, should have patients informed of such potential consequences.

To me, volunteers who take part in clinical trials should and must be made aware of possible consequences, that's only right and decent thing to do. 

 

 

[mg4lotus]

^^ What he said.

If you are looking for an excuse to not be vaccinated that's up to you, it's not mandatory. I hope you don't get the virus. If you do get the virus I hope you don't pass it on to other people. If you do pass it on to other people I hope they don't die. That would be a terrible thing to have on your conscience.

Take care and stay safe.

[exeterjeep]

More speculation about the origin of the virus....part of a bit on the BBC,

The World Health Organization's investigation into the origins of the pandemic needs to "explore all possible theories", Downing Street says, following reports that workers at Wuhan's virology laboratory were treated in hospital as far back as November 2019.

A US intelligence report says three researchers from the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) sought hospital care a month before China reported the first cases of what became known as Covid-19, the Wall Street Journal reports.

[Barrykearley]

Well Dominic Cummings is today trying it seems to completely upstage Megan Markle in the how to be a complete twat stakes.

Why are the government’s select committee allowing this knobhead to have a stage to act out on?

[scotty435]

The highest death rate in Europe could be your answer?

[ramjet]

Well, we are in another 7 day lockdown. Indian variant, I believe, has gotten out and we have had more public transmissions so away we go again.

Not just us, but the world is going to see this going on for quite a while yet.

This is the most uncertain time that I have ever lived through.

[Colin P]

On 26/05/2021 at 23:21, scotty435 said:

The highest death rate in Europe could be your answer?

I think the question was more related to providing Cummings (specifically) a platform than performing an investigation. Spending a whole day listening to someone who lies for a living and also has an axe to grind is of no benefit to anyone and certainly doesn’t help in understanding what was done correctly or incorrectly. Basically anything said by him simply has to be disregarded. 

[PaulCP]

Cumming’s credibility goes down everytime he opens his mouth.

When he gave his latest version of events as to the Barnard Castle trip, (being that he had received death threats from a mob outside of his house I believe?), why the fck didn’t the panel conducting the interview ask him at what point he contacted the police to report it.

He is clearly a very vengeful person who is running Markle close for the award of the highest quantity of wild fabricated stories

[LotusLeftLotusRight]

Also, did he actually provide any proof for all his claims, or are we just supposed to take his word for it as the trustworthy individual he clearly is?

[910Esprit]

From a procedural point of view it was not a very impressive performance either.  Political opponents were simply allowed to ask, a very bitter guy, leading questions seeking 'opinion'.   In the final analysis, he took 7 hours to say he considers Matt Hancock dishonest and incompetant and considers Boris just to be incompetant.   It should also be remembered that the early decisions regarding Lockdowns etc were taken when scientists were stating there was no prospect of a vaccine in the near future.