Coronavirus

[Barrykearley]

Best you wear a mask along with the tin foil hat folks

[eeyoreish]

Context. IMHO the biggest problem with the daily COVID figures reported on the mainstream news.

 

Edited August 29, 2021 by eeyoreish

[MPx]

5 hours ago, Bibs said:

Average weekly causes of death over the last month...

Yes clearly a problem with the official numbers as ever.  I watch the BBC reporting over 100 covid deaths every day all week and then this chart pops up saying its 242 for the weekly avg.  

[Clive59]

Maybe the difference is 'with' and 'from' Covid?

 

[ramjet]

My thoughts exactly. Only takes the changing of that word by either a media outlet or a listener and the numbers don't make sense.

[Barrykearley]

Looking at the mess left at the Reading festival on BBC news this morning - what a complete disgrace the mess is left behind.

[Bibs]

[Sparky]

^^ Nastiest virus on the planet.

[ramjet]

You carry it there, you carry it home. Or not.

[tom kilner]

Plenty of them left behind their disposable Amazon camping kit, but will have taken home a surprise for the family... given boardmasters produced 5000 known infections out of 75000 attendees... let's hope the reading festival organisers went even more "above and beyond national guidelines"

[LotusLeftLotusRight]

Some UK statistics.

6.9 million confirmed cases so far, so that means about 10% of the population have had it and will have antibodies. I know some will have had it twice, but many more will have been asymptomatic and untested.

89% of 16+ adults have had one dose.

79% of 16+ adults have had both doses.

With all that protection, wouldn’t you think we would be fully on top of it by now?

[Barrykearley]

4 hours ago, LotusLeftLotusRight said:

With all that protection, wouldn’t you think we would be fully on top of it by now?

Far better to scare everyone and get control of them. 

[Barrykearley]

[tom kilner]

19 hours ago, Barrykearley said:

Far better to scare everyone and get control of them. 

To be fair the UK government is managing a far higher daily case rate and death rate (using similar figures) than almost every other country - we are hoping to see rates falling before hospitals' busy winter season. They've done away with most legal restrictions, so they've just got "scaremongering" and "a call to the anxious" in the toolbox.

It's a lot better than it was, and a lot better than it could be.

[910Esprit]

Even the media are losing interest, which is nice

[gregs24]

On 04/09/2021 at 09:41, LotusLeftLotusRight said:

Some UK statistics.

6.9 million confirmed cases so far, so that means about 10% of the population have had it and will have antibodies. I know some will have had it twice, but many more will have been asymptomatic and untested.

89% of 16+ adults have had one dose.

79% of 16+ adults have had both doses.

With all that protection, wouldn’t you think we would be fully on top of it by now?

Currently around 94% of adults have antibodies and this figure has been fairly static for a few weeks now. This still leaves 6% of the adult population plus children. Lots of data available here Coronavirus (COVID-19) Infection Survey, antibody and vaccination data, UK - Office for National Statistics

The vaccine is not a sterilising vaccine and so doesn't prevent onward transmission (although does reduce it on average) and the purpose of the vaccine is and was to prevent serious illness and death. 

COVID is now effectively endemic and will probably circulate at current levels +/- for the long term, as many endemic respiratory viruses do. Immunity will be topped up in the individual by vaccination (intramuscular or intranasal) and natural exposure. 

Current hospitalisations and deaths are well below a bad 'flu' year but (and this is a big concern) this winter will combine endemic COVID with flu and febrile colds to hit hard where vulnerable people are concerned.

On 29/08/2021 at 22:25, Clive59 said:

Maybe the difference is 'with' and 'from' Covid?

 

There are three definitions of COVID deaths - all clearly explained and all the data is available

Deaths in the UK | Coronavirus in the UK (data.gov.uk)

 

[Barrykearley]

Well let’s just wait and see what we have by the end of September early October once the kids have been back to school. I’m sure the fear mongers will be out in force by then.

[tom kilner]

My kids back at school today,  that's the next risk.. remember the media stories when you were allowed back in the pub?

Looks like we just scraped through that one, a bit of a rise in infections and admissions, but still manageable.

Throw in cold weather for indoor socialising, and that is maybe the final hurdle. 🤞

As long as you're not waiting for an artificial knee🤔

[tom kilner]

Maybe the scaremongerers could have a pitched battle with the anti-vaxxers?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-58440700

Bets anyone?

 

[Bibs]

[C8RKH]

On 31/08/2021 at 11:30, Bibs said:

And this from the younger generations who bemoan the older generations impact on the environment and selfishness for not looking after the environment.  It is "their" throwaway attitude and need to constantly update their technology gizmo's that is now doing the lasting damage. Fooking entitled hypocrites the lot of them

[Chillidoggy]

24 minutes ago, C8RKH said:

And this from the younger generations who bemoan the older generations impact on the environment and selfishness for not looking after the environment.  It is "their" throwaway attitude and need to constantly update their technology gizmo's that is now doing the lasting damage. Fooking entitled hypocrites the lot of them

I think I can just about see my tent.

[C8RKH]

Your mum will be proud of you!

[C8RKH]

WTF!  Hope this is not true

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/wuhan-scientists-planned-release-skin-145326556.html

[Barrykearley]

Shock horror 🙄 I’m sure no one expected that.

now it’s about time sanctions are levied on the Chinese and assets frozen.