How long till more Emiras than Evoras for sale.

[Giveitfish]

Possibly a mix of cancelled orders and demos? Would they shift V6 demos before the i4 comes in?

Cancelled orders not unique to Lotus by the way, non-GT Porsche's are suffering too - pages of chat about it on Pistonheads 

 

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=48&t=2041147&i=0

Edited July 30, 2023 by Giveitfish

[Barrykearley]

Seriously - we are on the edge of a massive abyss presently.

last weekend - first weekend of kids holidays I had a weekend away In Minehead with Emily - the entire place was dead. Now im in Tunisia - again - dead - very low numbers locals have noticed. Ems had exactly the same in Spain a couple of weeks ago.

folks are feeling it.

[Hal]

A quick look on mobil.de, arguably Germany's premier on line trading site, there are 27 Evoras for sale against 39 Emiras...

[Bibs]

Lotus made 6,000 odd Evora's in 14 years and they're currently making 600 Emira's per month. The bias towards the Emira now and even more so in the very near future isn't a surprise. 

[mcdonaa]

When do we think the number of Emiras will exceed 6000 then? Or has it already happened?

[mdavies]

I'm surprised that posts comparing Emira/Evora numbers appear to group together all models of the Evora on sale.

Surely the only models of Evora that reasonably can be compared with the Emira are the 400 and upwards?   Taking only those models into account would show a much larger disparity in numbers.  Comparable Evoras are already a much rarer species than the common or garden Emira!   

[LotusLeftLotusRight]

On 04/08/2023 at 19:08, Bibs said:

Lotus made 6,000 odd Evora's in 14 years and they're currently making 600 Emira's per month. The bias towards the Emira now and even more so in the very near future isn't a surprise. 

Yeah, but these Emiras are all almost new cars which people are trying to sell pretty damn quickly after taking delivery.

[Bruss]

600 a month since when?  Or is this a hope rather than an actuality?

Where are they being sold? July registrations for the UK from smmt do not show Lotus at all. They may of course be in the all other UK manufacturers number of 226 registrations for all manufacturers. 
 

 

[Bibs]

1 hour ago, Bruss said:

600 a month since when?

For quite some time now. That's at 90% capacity of thereabouts for 2 shifts, may even be at 100% now. 

[exeterjeep]

2 hours ago, Bruss said:

July registrations for the UK from smmt do not show Lotus at all

SMMT figures do not list all manufacturers, eg Lotus & McLaren, they removed Lotus from their monthly reporting a few years ago as the numbers were so low.  They must be included in the Other British.

I get the fuller figures from https://www.am-online.com/data/manufacturer-insight but they come out a few days after the SMMT published ones.

[Bruss]

Thanks for that Keith.

[exeterjeep]

Hopefully as Lotus register more and more, SMMT may add them back.

[au-yt]

Australian car sales 2 Evora’s . 8 Emira’s some new, some speculative 

[Bruss]

So where are these 600 Emira cars going. Clearly not the UK from sales figures and discounts being offered.

[Bibs]

The UK is traditionally 15% of the Lotus market. While the USA isn't online for the Emira yet, there's plenty of demand elsewhere. 

[rudolphwolven]

* * * * * 

Lotus registered delivery figures Germany, 2023 until September........

2023			Eletre	Emira	Sonstige	Gesamt
Januar				11		11
Februar				12		12
März				25	1	26
April				37		37
Mai				37		37
Juni				31		31
Juli			9	18		27
August			8	19		27
September			12	11	3	26
Oktober						0
November						0
Dezember						0
			29	201	4	234
					Total:	234

 

https://www.lotus-forum.de/WBB/index.php?thread/14089-lotus-zulassungszahlen/&pageNo=34

Edited October 11, 2023 by rudolphwolven

[LotusLeftLotusRight]

There are now more Eletres for sale on AT and PH than Evoras…..

I’ve still never seen an Eletre in the wild.

[Nelly]

I have, but then I live less than a mile from my local Lotus dealer so that's probably no surprise.

They do have a lot in stock on the forecourt (I counted 16 over Christmas) so I am not sure what sales are like, its a very nice ting thought IMO.

[Phaeton91]

Currently in South Africa and wondered what the local market was like for Lotus cars.  There are currently 5 for sale.  An Elan, 2 dubious looking non badged Sevens (ie kit cars) and 2 Emiras.  Here’s one of the Emira’s - current exchange rate is around 23 rand to the pound, so north of £100k being asked.  Cars here are definitely more expensive than in the UK but this is really big money! 
 

[au-yt]

By reference to Jayemm lotus made 6117 EVORA's. I recon there more EMIRA's than EVORA's in existence. 

[mcdonaa]

Looking at howmanyleft.co.uk, there were already more Emiras on the road in Q3 last year (over 1000) that the total number of Evoras (less than 900).