How long till more Emiras than Evoras for sale.

[exeterjeep]

mid Feb. my 430 was 55730

[jerzybondov]

2011 Evora S: WBAC £21k (50% discount?)

Even more hilariously my mint 1 owner from new 2004 Mini Cooper S: WBAC £900 (market value £4k minimum 🤣)

Got to be enough room in there for about 3 middle men to each pocket a grand after relieving you of your motor…

But to bring it back on topic… I guess the next Emira milestone will be first used car to go up for less than the new price? (Or at least the original new price)

Edited March 5, 2023 by jerzybondov

[Cdm2018]

I wonder if any Emira special editions in future will affect the 1st edition models ? The i4 version even ?

I guess there’s so many variables but we know the Evora is fixed item so maybe a predictable market ?

[Barrykearley]

£21705 for the Evora

£970 for the esprit - should have used that for my divorce valuation 🤣

 

[Cdm2018]

I am going to use those valuations to show wifey no point in trading the Evora for the camper van she pesters me on daily basis ! 😵‍💫

we be lucky to get a couple of sleeping bags at that trade in prices 

[Techyd]

My Lexus comes out at 20995 which is about right if I were to part-ex at a dealer.  It would go on the forecourt at about £24k I reckon

[TdM]

When I sold my Jag I did it through WBAC. They were a bit below private but around the same as trade and it was a piece of piddle to deal with, took about 15 minutes, they didn't bother haggling as it was mint. Recommended under the right circumstances.

I think it's very dependent on vehicle, timing of what is in demand at the time and what you are looking for. I doubt it will ever give you a good number on an Evora and I'm sure we'd all want our cars going to a loving home!

 

£24,215 BTW on my Evora

[Rambo]

On a sports racer? 😯

[TdM]

Don't worry they aren't getting it! I think they price some of these because they don't really want them. It's not easy for them to shift, even through an auction because it's so specialist that people only really want to buy good ones with a known pedigree.

[Beady]

Just traded in a 4 yr old macan - WBAC were £36k. Cazoo (I think) £31k and motorway £37.5k (their guide as it then gets offered out)

i spoke to 4 different dealers who all agreed £36k was about the right trade in value.

the dealer that took it now has it up for £41.5k - I don’t think 5k mark up is too outrageous as they have to prep it, warranty it and probably get chipped to 40k anyway 

[Phaeton91]

I always used to sell my cars privately, the most expensive being £16k.  At that level can deal with the risks attached and time spent but significantly higher and I would rather settle for a few grand less and no risk.  For that reason alone I think the likes of WBAC etc have a valid place in the market and should see a premium over part ex values.

Recently, I sold my station car through Motorway. It is a decent platform.  I know I could have got a bit more privately but for the small E xtra I would have got I couldn’t be doing with weeks of advertising and juggling at weekends etc for viewings. 

Ps:  Hands up Who checks zoopla regularly for their house value?

pps: just thinking about the deeper issue with WBAC etc.  They are a disrupter business model.  I’m just speculating but I would guess that the industry they’ve most hit is the auction houses eg, British Car Auctions.  If this is the case then the other thing that suffers is market data. I’m sure We all remember glass’ guide which was the dealer’s valuation bible and a lot of valuation data would come out of the auction houses where the hammer price is publicly known.  So the more cars are dealt off a public market (eg, WBAC, carwow etc) the more of that data comes out of the public domain and into the hands of those companies.  With that knowledge they can potentially control market values.  Is is just a random coincidence that car prices increased during the pandemic when these companies really took a hold?  I don’t think so.

Would welcome the thoughts of anyone who knows the industry better that me.

Edited March 9, 2023 by Phaeton91
Extra thoughts

[LotusLeftLotusRight]

British Car Auctions owns WBAC. Presumably they use it as a source of stock?

[Barrykearley]

And mannheim if that’s still true. When you unpick whom own what you will be very surprised 

[Rambo]

Don't you just hate those WBAC adverts? And those Motorway ones where people are dancing on large calculators trying to outbid each other and give you the highest price? As if.

[Dan E]

Motorway are brilliant, i sold my wife's BMW 435 coupe through it. they valued it at 22.5k when they called i explained it was mint and had every option so i would like them to put it up for 24k which they did. It went live at 10am by 3pm it had sold for 26k. 

2 days later a guy, the ex manager of the Libertines strangely, turned up checked it out took it for a test drive then had a cup of tea by the time he had finished that the money was in my bank and he drove off. 

[Rambo]

I'm not against the principle of the Motorway thing, it's the adverts I hate 😕

[exeterjeep]

As you say the new WBAC ads are really bad, always turn the sound off.

[Rambo]

I hate that fat tw@t with the moustache on Go Compare too. Turns me off so I never use that website 😕

[Bibs]

Aaaaaaaaaaaaand back on topic. Thanks. 

[Rambo]

OK Boss 😉

Autotrader currently have 19 Emiras for sale and 18 Evoras.

 

[exeterjeep]

Speaking to Exeter, I was supposed to be having a test drive Saturday, but have been told that the car is shortly going back to the factory, think both the Hendy ones are only there to assess any interest at what sort of price they can generate. Don't think I could roll up pay the asking price and come away with the car. So that makes it Emira 17, Evora 18....

 

[C8RKH]

More Emira's for sale on Autotrader than Evora's. That didn't take long....

[MrBlueSky]

Indeed, only a few weeks since I posed the question.

Think @timbotucker question is now very relevant. "How long till cheapest Emira is less than run out Evora"

Given the '19 plate Military Grey GT410 Sport on Autotrader appears to have sold very quickly at over £70k, this milestone might come quicker than we thInk. Good thing for Evora owners but not sure what it means for the brand perception.

[Cdm2018]

I was wondering and I am not historically conversant but what other car is placed like the Evora given it’s numbers and driveabilty etc

when we look back are we drawing comparisons with E type jag or Ford cosworths ? 
Are these cars a fair comparison given they sold in bigger numbers or price points ?

will it be case in the future when you go to a car show your Evora is placed in the rare exotic category( if it’s not already ) ?  

[C8RKH]

I would say the closest, most obvious, is the venerable Honda NSX.

Like the Evora praised widely  for its ride, handling etc. Not the fastest of its time, like the Evora, but the sweetest of its time, like the Evora.