The Donald.

[ChrisJ]

Why can't the US put forward younger, more credible, candidates?

I do have a question for our US members. Can Obama stand again? Is the limit 2 terms full stop or 2 consecutive terms?

 

[Rambo]

I'm very surprised he's not been jailed by now 😲

[exeterjeep]

50 minutes ago, Rambo said:

I'm very surprised he's not been jailed by now 😲

Too much monopoly money gives him a get out of jail card - or even a keep out of jail card. Such a nasty bloke.

 

[DDubya]

We moan so much about UK politicians, on either side, but look at the choice in ‘Merica. A mentalist in Trump, or a senile coffin dodger who clearly is losing/has lost his marbles. 

[snowrx]

I'll see your Trump and raise you a Herschel Walker. If you want to explore the mysteries of political belief and tribal loyalty, he's a perfect case of anyone but Them. How he can be neck and neck with an incumbent, given his seemingly toxic background, dishonesty, and poor speaking ability, is beyond me.

 

 

[calvan]

33 minutes ago, snowrx said:

I'll see your Trump and raise you a Herschel Walker. If you want to explore the mysteries of political belief and tribal loyalty, he's a perfect case of anyone but Them. How he can be neck and neck with an incumbent, given his seemingly toxic background, dishonesty, and poor speaking ability, is beyond me.

 

 

For a somewhat disturbing analysis of the effects of tribalism, and other factors, in the affairs of nations read this book:

https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/624156/how-civil-wars-start-by-barbara-f-walter/

Like much of popularised academia it tends to lay it on a bit thick but is still thought provoking,

[Barrykearley]

11 hours ago, Rambo said:

I'm very surprised he's not been jailed by now 😲

Nor has Tony Blair 

[jonwat]

3 hours ago, Barrykearley said:

Nor has Tony Blair 

I'd pay good money to see that lying b4st4rd in the dock.

[Bibs]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-64034559

Not sure you can win an election from jail! 

[comem47]

this has been moving painfully slow for what is all too obvious to me

[Bibs]

'America is going to hell': Donald Trump's response to criminal charges

https://f7td5.app.goo.gl/Pnpehv

The first ex-President to face criminal charges. How is this going down in the USA? 

 

[Kimbers]

He's the gift that keeps giving isn't he!!

Unfortunately, though I think Politicians should be prosecuted for things like this, surely inciting the attack on the capital building, Stealing confidential documents etc etc is more serious than this? And by prosecuting for this I think the Republicans are uniting behind him and it could get him re-elected! Thats my worry

[Sparky]

Giving? No.  Yet again, he's leveraged this as a fundraising opportunity, allegedly to cover his legal costs.  Hordes of MAGA nutjobs are handing over their hard-earned to fund a billionaire.  And agreed, there's no such thing as bad publicity.

[snowrx]

It's astounding to me how he constantly and brazenly conflates himself with the country or nation; if he is held accountable the nation is at risk!

And the GOP just lines up and enables with the line that "If this happens to him, it will happen to you!"  Umm, not unless you evade taxes, poke pornstars, cheat your business partners and wives, lie continuously, or attempt to subvert the democratic process. ( well TBH, that last is becoming a favorite for his whole party)

 

[EldonZ]

What you are missing is that he is raising money like crazy over this. He has raised over 8 million in one week from his base which is mostly lower income families. What these people keep missing is that he flies from Fl. to NY in a passenger jet, not a small private jet. The cost of flying this plane is not small. This is what amazes me that these people keep giving him money. Most of these families giving him money don't even make what it cost to fly this plane from Fl -<> NY -> Fl.

Later,
Eldon

 

[drdoom]

We witness in this the epic capacity of humans for delusion. Been there, done that, the Germans in the '30's.

[DanR]

On 05/04/2023 at 21:48, Kimbers said:

He's the gift that keeps giving isn't he!!

Unfortunately, though I think Politicians should be prosecuted for things like this, surely inciting the attack on the capital building, Stealing confidential documents etc etc is more serious than this? And by prosecuting for this I think the Republicans are uniting behind him and it could get him re-elected! Thats my worry

Could this become his "Capone" moment. Capone, tax dodge, Trump, lying.

[oneshot]

[Bibs]

Now a convicted sex offender. Still the Republican candidate

[andydclements]

Thought it was a civil case, so wouldn't that be proven offender but not convicted?

[Bibs]

[exeterjeep]

I'll be back impression?

[eeyoreish]

Probably been practicing that for a while...

[Bibs]

With a team of consultants advising on the best face to pull.

 

[drdoom]

7 hours ago, exeterjeep said:

I'll be back impression?

Hitler was jailed in 1923, sentenced to 5 years for an attempted coup, released early for whatever reason. Anyone believe history doesn't repeat?